Azata Melee build ideas?

[THAC0]

so ive slowly been going though the mythic paths for story content one at a time, Granted i still got more to do, Angel was very fun with 2 handed weapon fighter i just keept it simple for that and had a blast with it
Warpriest Devil was fun
I disliked the Wizard Lich playthough meh
the Swarm was just f-in terrible maybe it was just my build but i find alot of the games fun to come with the companions so no surprize the 2 mythic paths that kinda eat em up i did not enjoy

So ive been debaiting Azata, heard its story is <3 which could be great had some family drama and problems recently with deaths in the family i want a good story, im not going to play on unfair ive done it its fun but it requires alot of focus and what knock rather not do that and thus just enjoy the story over-all
HOWEVER I do want a build that I could prob modifer for the future of a unfair diff run though perhaps

also totaly going to romance succubus lady for the first time <3 hears hoping Azata and the romance is all that and a bag of chips

So I Like trying out differnt things, and I Was thinking sence I enjoyed Slayer in Kingmaker, that I prob enjoy a Slayer Arcane Enforcer in WotR tho i wanna multiclass with it, not sure what a good decent simple enough build to combo it with however sence I wanna avoid micromanaging alot this time around

I rather stay away from the norm weapons and classes like Glaives Longswords Kurikis and what knock so was thinking Bastard Sword or something

was thinking Maybe Caviler for Azata go the route with the better animal companions use them as a pet later on when i ride around on dragon companion as my mounth later
but was thinking maybe i could just take mounted combat feats on the Slayer if im just planning on doing that later and thus do something eles Early game

So Later in the game I kinda wanna use the Dragon as a mounted combat pet but early on i dont wanna do much mounted combat
again not on unfair just something to enjoy, Maybe i should just go like Arcane Enforcer Slayer 7 then Multiclass into something eles then become mounted combat and use like Bastard sword or such?

any ideas / thoughts?

[Yannir]

Cavalier and Azata don't really go together. Life-Bonding Friendship is a real strong feature of Azata but it doesn't gel well with classes that already gain Teamwork feats as a class feature. The class feature becomes redundant.

[Tyrendian89]

I had a lot of fun with a straight Primalist (Bloodrager) Azata - works storywise (reckless and just looking for a good time), the Azata spells offer some nice variety, and you dont have a pet to compete with Aivu (who is just <3 ). Plus, normal difficulty and wielding an upgraded Soulshear led to hilarious moments of walking around dungeons with a dozen Mariliths on my side... which also seems very chaotic.

[canuck250]

Mutation warrior. Dual wield scimitars, stack your mutagens with azata

[THAC0]

Originally posted by canuck250:

Mutation warrior. Dual wield scimitars, stack your mutagens with azata

would you think Mutation warrior can multiclass well with some other classes in a melee Azata build?
example

Originally posted by Tyrendian89:

I had a lot of fun with a straight Primalist (Bloodrager) Azata - works storywise (reckless and just looking for a good time), the Azata spells offer some nice variety, and you dont have a pet to compete with Aivu (who is just <3 ). Plus, normal difficulty and wielding an upgraded Soulshear led to hilarious moments of walking around dungeons with a dozen Mariliths on my side... which also seems very chaotic.

would a mixture of Mutation warrior + Bloodrager work?

[Tyrendian89]

so what difficulty are you actually aiming at? Because as long as you know what you're doing mechanics wise, you can get by with any semi-coherent build on Core and below. Which would include pretty much any Primalist-Muttwarrior combination, because they're both strong Melee classes that don't actively counteract eachother.
However, I did really like having at least 17 levels of Bloodrager just to avoid the mightily annoying Fatigue after every rage... which would "only" leave you enough MutWarrior to get the basic Mutagen (and a couple of Feats), nothing more. Still good, but getting Mighty Bloodrage for any free self-cast spell at combat start is also not too shabby.

[THAC0]

Originally posted by Tyrendian89:

so what difficulty are you actually aiming at? Because as long as you know what you're doing mechanics wise, you can get by with any semi-coherent build on Core and below. Which would include pretty much any Primalist-Muttwarrior combination, because they're both strong Melee classes that don't actively counteract eachother.
However, I did really like having at least 17 levels of Bloodrager just to avoid the mightily annoying Fatigue after every rage... which would "only" leave you enough MutWarrior to get the basic Mutagen (and a couple of Feats), nothing more. Still good, but getting Mighty Bloodrage for any free self-cast spell at combat start is also not too shabby.

core maybe norm differculty i have played unfair not a fan of the min maxing micromanagement of all the spells its a bit annoying rather enjoy the story but i find combat adds to it so something not to hard or challenging but fun enough
thinking now maybe mutation warrior + slayer perhaps or some such thing like that.

[dszombiex]

2 Barbarian Mad Dog -> Pack Tactics
3 Hunter -> Animal Focus, Outflank, Hunter Tactics - shares teamwork feats with animal companion (Here take Boon Companion, Tandem Trip if using trip companion)
5 Ranger Demonslayer -> Hunter's Bond Animal Companion (share demon favored enemies bonuses with animal companion)
~9 Cavalier Gendarme -> Bonus Feats, Order, Banner. Fewer levels possible if you want to mix something else in (mounted feats, Spirited Charge)
~1+ Whatever -> Add to previous classes or find something else.

[THAC0]

Originally posted by dszombiex:

2 Barbarian Mad Dog -> Pack Tactics
3 Hunter -> Animal Focus, Outflank, Hunter Tactics - shares teamwork feats with animal companion (Here take Boon Companion, Tandem Trip if using trip companion)
5 Ranger Demonslayer -> Hunter's Bond Animal Companion (share demon favored enemies bonuses with animal companion)
~9 Cavalier Gendarme -> Bonus Feats, Order, Banner. Fewer levels possible if you want to mix something else in (mounted feats, Spirited Charge)
~1+ Whatever -> Add to previous classes or find something else.

as i stated i dont want something min max and all that so im going to pass on the above.

[Nismu]

Fauchard using Skald perhaps? Fits azata theme game sets with songs

and for hilarity halfling or gnome so you can ride Aivu from beginning ( though reduce person needed at first )

[THAC0]

Originally posted by Nismu:

Fauchard using Skald perhaps? Fits azata theme game sets with songs

and for hilarity halfling or gnome so you can ride Aivu from beginning ( though reduce person needed at first )

was thinking I would do something first and just not do mounted combat at the start and by the time i get to Aivu i would have reduce person and enlarge spells will be open to me give that a shot and what knock.
but im thinking like Arcane Enforcer 7 good start boost with Sneak Attack then the rest of Mutation warrior seems pretty basic simple not alot of mix max / micro needed for spells / abilitys im trying to limited the number of things i do

I honestly found my 2 Handed Weapon fighter super simple basic but extremly satisfying to play I am findign the olde rI get the less i like builds that require alot of micro management or such or a bunch of buffs b4 or after im ok with some basic things like bless and enlarge or such but i dont wanna cast like 20+ spells b4 combat pass on that strat maybe 10 or less maybe

[Tyrendian89]

the nice thing about Bloodrager (sorry to keep harping on about it but I did really enjoy that playthrough) is that you get most the key buffs yourself, at least the Arcane ones, so you dont really need to worry about always having a companion along to buff you - and let's be honest, when you're playing a martial Main Character, buffing yourself is the most important thing :D

[THAC0]

Originally posted by Tyrendian89:

the nice thing about Bloodrager (sorry to keep harping on about it but I did really enjoy that playthrough) is that you get most the key buffs yourself, at least the Arcane ones, so you dont really need to worry about always having a companion along to buff you - and let's be honest, when you're playing a martial Main Character, buffing yourself is the most important thing :D

yeah that seems nice sorry for the late replay just thanksgiving getting to family area going to spend the next few days with mom/step dad have a small thanksgiving you get the jizz
I am prob going to look into that when i get back home late this weekend and prob start a new playthough some time next week maybe not this weekend bu the following weekend.

[Belegc]

I have been thinking on something like 16 Court Poet/1 Scaled Fist/2 Student of War/1 Cross-blooded Sorcerer. you focus only on INT and Cha and wield either the INT Bardiche or INT heavy pick.

with the new mythic inspiration and the double morale ring you get very high levels of Cha and INT so you are very tanky and can have high DC as well for those enchantment spells from Skald and Azata. the Sorcerer is for Undead+Serpentine bloodlines so your enchantment spells will work on them + access to Mage Armor.

[THAC0]

Originally posted by Belegc:

I have been thinking on something like 16 Court Poet/1 Scaled Fist/2 Student of War/1 Cross-blooded Sorcerer. you focus only on INT and Cha and wield either the INT Bardiche or INT heavy pick.

with the new mythic inspiration and the double morale ring you get very high levels of Cha and INT so you are very tanky and can have high DC as well for those enchantment spells from Skald and Azata. the Sorcerer is for Undead+Serpentine bloodlines so your enchantment spells will work on them + access to Mage Armor.

arnt they nerfing the CHA / Int stacking classes tho?

[Belegc]

Originally posted by THAC0:

Originally posted by Belegc:

I have been thinking on something like 16 Court Poet/1 Scaled Fist/2 Student of War/1 Cross-blooded Sorcerer. you focus only on INT and Cha and wield either the INT Bardiche or INT heavy pick.

with the new mythic inspiration and the double morale ring you get very high levels of Cha and INT so you are very tanky and can have high DC as well for those enchantment spells from Skald and Azata. the Sorcerer is for Undead+Serpentine bloodlines so your enchantment spells will work on them + access to Mage Armor.

arnt they nerfing the CHA / Int stacking classes tho?

not in this build if I understand it correctly. student of war replaces dex as your main AC and the scaled fist monk adds your charisma bonus to it (given you are unarmored and don't carry a shield and unencumbered). mage armor should work with it as well.