Best spell focus for base cleric?

[Professor Von-Wulfen ]

Hello all.
I am building a base cleric and need to choose a school of magic for spell focus.
What would fit best with a base cleric?
He will be a back-line caster and there purely to heal or use positive energy against undead.

[canuck250]

I personally go with martial focused clerics. IMO if you want a divine spell caster, oracle with the salamander ring is the way to go (Evo spell focus). Domains are the best thing about clerics so their feats are already thin, I have a hard time for mythics with them as I want to take impossible domains, abundant, the extended ones usually get cut despite how much I love 24 hour spells and then to boost their offensive power, just not enough feats.

A few examples of my cleric builds
Sosiel on a wolf
2h reach, 2nd row dd and buffer (I like the crusader subclass for this)
crossbow backline buffer (this is what i use for unfair)

[Professor Von-Wulfen ]

Originally posted by canuck250:

I personally go with martial focused clerics. IMO if you want a divine spell caster, oracle with the salamander ring is the way to go. Domains are the best thing about clerics so their feats are already thin, I have a hard time for mythics with them as I want to take impossible domains, abundant, the extended ones usually get cut despite how much I love 24 hour spells and then to boost their offensive power, just not enough feats.

A few examples of my cleric builds
Sosiel on a wolf
2h reach, 2nd row dd and buffer (I like the crusader subclass for this)
bow/crossbow backline buffer (this is what i use for unfair)

Many thanks. I am happy with the build so far just need advice on the spell focus school. Which school has the most healing/buffing spells?

[canuck250]

Originally posted by Professor Von-Wulfen :

Many thanks. I am happy with the build so far just need advice on the spell focus school. Which school has the most healing/buffing spells?

Extend/heighten(to get more spell book control) meta magic and the mythic feats: abundant and enduring are the only ones you care about for healing/buffs. That is why I say martial for a cleric, between your buffs and domains there is not much room left to cast spells so a bit of focus on your martial abilities is the way to go.

Otherwise conjuration isn't bad for CC but they won't hit great DC for late game but also helps summons.... Wait, also should have mentioned enchantment, greater command and stuff like that can be great.

[Yannir]

Spell Focus does nothing for healing or against undead. Just get more channels, and you can go for longer.

[Realm Walker]

If i am not mistaken, all cure (cure light wounds, cure medium wounds, cure light wounds mass,...) spells are evocation spells.

[canuck250]

Originally posted by Realm Walker:

If i am not mistaken, all cure (cure light wounds, cure medium wounds, cure light wounds mass,...) spells are evocation spells.

*conjuration

[pete3great]

Originally posted by canuck250:

Originally posted by Realm Walker:

If i am not mistaken, all cure (cure light wounds, cure medium wounds, cure light wounds mass,...) spells are evocation spells.

*conjuration

Let's call the whole thing off.

[Realm Walker]

Btw. I don't think that healing spells benefit from higher spell penetration or DC.

[Zuloph]

Originally posted by Realm Walker:

Btw. I don't think that healing spells benefit from higher spell penetration or DC.

They do if you use them offensively against the undead though that's more useful in PNP

[Realm Walker]

Originally posted by Zuloph:

Originally posted by Realm Walker:

Btw. I don't think that healing spells benefit from higher spell penetration or DC.

They do if you use them offensively against the undead though that's more useful in PNP

True, though you have channel positive energy and dedicated anti undead spells of different schools.

[Drake]

If you're doing a buffer cleric, you don't need spell focus, just pick some metamagics (to extend duration or reach or quick cast) and more channel.
For offencive clerics, evocation or necromancy (for damage dealers) or enchantment (for controllers) are the main schools for cleric spells.

the exception is if you specifically want to make a banisher, since it's campaign against demons (which are outsiders), pick abjuration focus and then spell specialization for dismissal spells (you can pick dispel magic at low levels while waiting to get dismiss) to get the +1 to caster level.

Dismissal spells are very powerful against demons as they can make them vanish entirely and send them back to the abyss if you succeed at the check (and there is no save against that). It's way more effective than any death spell. If it's your main char and you're on the angel path and merge books, you'll get a stupid advantage from the bonus caster level gained with the merge.

[reidj062]

Originally posted by Professor Von-Wulfen :

Hello all.
I am building a base cleric and need to choose a school of magic for spell focus.
What would fit best with a base cleric?
He will be a back-line caster and there purely to heal or use positive energy against undead.

Look at what spells you are preparing most often and work from there. For Daeran, I realized almost all my spells were either evocation or necromancy, so I went with that.