Retraining...

[Null Winter]

So, retraining is only available on certain (or custom) difficulties, is hidden away with a specific NPC that likes to lurk out of the way, and takes a full day of everyone sitting around doing nothing but watch an unseen NPC retrain a single ally. All because I wanted to fix the disgustingly bad default builds shoveled onto canon companions. Ouch, devs.

I'm guessing that if I retrain a caster, then it also erases any spells they learned via scrolls even if I retrain them into a similar class that also uses scroll learning?

[Conquista]

yes with the scroll thing
btw there is a mod like toybox that makes retraining available on all difficulties and more playerfriendly

[Null Winter]

Originally posted by Conquista:

yes with the scroll thing
btw there is a mod like toybox that makes retraining available on all difficulties and more playerfriendly

Not a good sign when mods are deemed necessary to fix design mistakes.

[Conquista]

i mean some people finish playthroughs without retraining once and giving limitations for the player on higher difficulties makes sense if its increases the difficulty

but not anyone cares about that so if you want a different retrain feature you can get it with modding

[Tenacity]

Yeah, you can absolutely clear the game on unfair without retraining. The flaws in your companions' builds are a part of the difficulty - hence why being able to retrain them is a difficulty setting.

[Yannir]

Originally posted by Null Winter:

Originally posted by Conquista:

yes with the scroll thing
btw there is a mod like toybox that makes retraining available on all difficulties and more playerfriendly

Not a good sign when mods are deemed necessary to fix design mistakes.

It's not a mistake. It's deliberate to make you engage with your character builds more on higher difficulties. They don't just hand you the keys.

If they just gave you super competent builds, what would be your incentive to try to make your own builds and find something cool you enjoy way more than a premade build?

[Chronocide]

Originally posted by Null Winter:

So, retraining is only available on certain (or custom) difficulties, is hidden away with a specific NPC that likes to lurk out of the way, and takes a full day of everyone sitting around doing nothing but watch an unseen NPC retrain a single ally. All because I wanted to fix the disgustingly bad default builds shoveled onto canon companions. Ouch, devs.

I'm guessing that if I retrain a caster, then it also erases any spells they learned via scrolls even if I retrain them into a similar class that also uses scroll learning?

For the record, you can't retrain their first level.

So they are kinda stuck there.

But you can just make a new character (mercenary) and not bother retraining them at all...