Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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Nero 9/set./2022 às 3:16
I am overwhelmed by the possibilities :-(
Don't laugh at me pals and please don't get angry for a topic you may have seen 125619 times within the last months.

Without much gobbledygook:
Can you recommend me a class that meets the following criteria?

- Animal Companion
- No bow user (I played an Erastil Cleric in Kingmaker)
- Fits into a good / neutral party (good / neutral needs a tank or healer, right?)
- Either Angel, Azata or Legend

Even with the classes that have an animal companion, there are already soooo many options: Sacred Huntsmaster, Oracle, Cleric, Sylvan Sorcerer, etc.

And it doesn't stop with the base class. We still have the Mythic Path to consider.

Can you help me make up my mind?
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Yannir 9/set./2022 às 5:12 
Would you consider using the animal companion as a mount?
Paladins and Cavaliers can both get a horse. Cavaliers on level 1, Paladins on lvl 3. There are others like Sohei and Arcane Rider but that's too long a list.

You could also make them a midliner melee build, a Strength-build with a reach weapon like Spear(which is a simple weapon) or Fauchard that attacks from behind the pet. A Sacred Huntsmaster, for example, isn't necessarily a ranged class. You get free Teamwork feats that are shared with your pet. Good synergy if your pet is the trippy type(Bully) and you're the DPS type.
Última edição por Yannir; 9/set./2022 às 5:13
gmwaddington 9/set./2022 às 15:42 
Dex-based Divine Hound Hunter, wielding a scimitar. Works with Azata, but I recommend Trickster. I play a Chaotic Good Trickster Halfling Divine Hound Hunter.
Vae Victis 10/set./2022 às 9:25 
Anything can get a pet with a 1 level hunter dip. Druid and ranger(rangers are good at melee too) are also options depending on your play style.
Última edição por Vae Victis; 10/set./2022 às 9:36
Nero 10/set./2022 às 15:02 
Well yes, everyone could get an Animal Companion that way. But it would be level one, unless you stick with an AC-typical class.


What's the weakest "role" filled out by story companions in a good aligned party?
Tank or healer?
gmwaddington 10/set./2022 às 15:36 
The Divine Hound Hunter that I mentioned is a tank (enemies typically attack the dog.) Buff with Mage Armor to start, and later Shield of Faith, Barkskin, Magic Vestment and Animal. Growth.

You could also try the build in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX5j-PndDWI&t=27s
Vae Victis 10/set./2022 às 20:23 
Escrito originalmente por Nero:
Well yes, everyone could get an Animal Companion that way. But it would be level one, unless you stick with an AC-typical class.


What's the weakest "role" filled out by story companions in a good aligned party?
Tank or healer?

if you have an animal companion you can pick the boon companion feat to boost its level to yours, even if its a one level hunter dip.
Nero 11/set./2022 às 6:46 
It's been a while since I played Kingmaker (and used a build someone else tinkered) and forgot boons completely. It's really overwhelming 😰

Would a kineticist with an AnCom be possible that way?


And thanks for the video 👍
Der Mentat 11/set./2022 às 14:11 
Escrito originalmente por Vae Victis:
if you have an animal companion you can pick the boon companion feat to boost its level to yours, even if its a one level hunter dip.

Boon Companion should only compensate for 4 levels of a class without pet though.

Escrito originalmente por Nero:
Can you recommend me a class that meets the following criteria?

- Animal Companion
- No bow user (I played an Erastil Cleric in Kingmaker)
- Fits into a good / neutral party (good / neutral needs a tank or healer, right?)
- Either Angel, Azata or Legend

For Angel Mythic Path, Cleric, Druid and Wildland Shaman can get an animal companion and would allow to merge spellbooks. Cleric (especially Crusader) is very good but I assume you don’t want to take the same class again as in Kingmaker. I don’t have much experience with Druids but they don’t seem to add much for a melee fighter. Finally Wildland Shaman can only be chosen by Half-Orcs.

Imho Azata synergizes the most with casters, so in this case Sylvan Sorcerer would fit.

But of course you can just take a generally good class that basically works with every Mythic Path. If you play RTwP, Charge bonuses and Pounce are both very important. Cavalier and Mad Dog seem to be great classes for this. (Personally I’ve never tried them though.) For turn based good options are

- Arcane Rider: can target touch AC with dimensional strike, can use Elemental Barrage
- Demonslayer: high AB from Favoured Enemy, sneak attack from Sense Vitals
- Sancitified Slayer with Animal Domain (preferably with Azata): can use domains to increase AB, additionally sneak attack and studied target
- Divine Hound Hunter (for Angel) / Divine Hunter (Hunter) with Glory domain (for Azata): stronger animal companion, sneak attack from Sense Vitals
- Sohei: full BAB and additional attacks

And there are certainly still a lot of other good classes that fit to your description... I'd suggest to make the decision just based on the flavor you like the most.
.O. 15/set./2022 às 1:13 
If going for Good, why not just go for Paladin?

As for companions, my memory is bit off, but I think the only Good companions are Seelah, Ember and Sosiel. So the missing archetype there is a pure martial or utility rogue type
Astral Projection 18/set./2022 às 12:15 
Can recommend Nature / Community domain Cleric into Angel.

Cleric gives you required Divine buffs and heals pretty much every party needs. Angel gets you get some major unresistable nukes and the best buffs in the game. Nature domain gives you a pet and Community domain gives you Guarded Hearth which is super OP.

Also - do you use the Toy Box mod? You can check a box and all 6 of your party get full Mythic Path access. You can try 6 different Mythic Paths at once.
Última edição por Astral Projection; 18/set./2022 às 12:19
juzam_djinn_fr 6/out./2022 às 15:49 
i'm in act 5 of a hard last azlanti run with a build who is very funny to play (and perform really well) and where the big star of the party is not me but my Animal companion.
It will fit well your criteria.
You can be Azata and switch legend later if you want.

The build i used is 16 urban hunter / 4 mutation Warrior (the last 4 fighters levels were to be able to reach 16 BAB at lvl 20 to take Greater Vital Strike but it's not mandatory)

Urban hunter (UH) can only use Dog, and it's perfect because it's the best pet for what we want to do, his bite will trip ennemies and he'll get the highest STR among animal companions.
UH is also the only class who can give those 2 feats to your pet (it will also gives those feats to yourself) :

- greater trip (need 13 int. normally) who gives an attack of opportunity on each ennemy tripped by your pet (in addition to the regular opportunity attack you'll get when the ennemy gets up).
- lunge who increase the reach of the bite of your Dog (like it's a reach weapon) making the bite hitting a larger area.

You'll choose the agressor subclass for your pet to make him gain power attack feat at level 1, allowing him to get Cleave (who req. power attack) at level 1 too.
and it give "bleeding Strike" who make your first attack every round applying bleed on the ennemy for 1D6 per round (can stack and can only be removed if the ennemy receive a heal) and bleeding strike gives also a bonus of up to +4 attack and damage to the Dog against bleeding target.

Your pet will be medium size at lvl 1, it will grow to Large at lvl 7, then can be increased to huge at level 9 when Nenio will buff him with Animal Growth (increase size by one and gives a +8 size bonus to STR among other bonuses), and at level 13, with Nenio Polymorph, Greater spell, you can turn your pet into a smilodon (if you need pounce) or a Dragon (gargantuan size) to gives him a polymorph bonus to STR, he'll be able to reach over 70 STR in the endgame.
Your size (if you're big) gives you a special bonus to combat maneuvers, the bigger you are, the bigger the bonus.

There is a Fantastic KneePad you can find in the first half of the game and equip the dog with:
- Knee Pads of Mighty Swipe :
Whenever the wearer of these knee pads lands a killing blow with a natural weapon, they gain a +2 bonus on their next attack roll, and this attack deals damage to all adjacent enemies on a successful hit.

WIth his Size and Lunge feat, he will be able to attack in an area larger than a fireball Area when polymorphed as a Dragon, and with the full Cleave Feat line, you can Cleave all ennemies in that big Area with your bite, it will attempt a Trip on each ennemy hit, applying Bleeding Strike on every ennemy hit because cleave is a single attack and the first one of the round despite the fact it hit several targets (and get +50% STR bonus damage as a single natural attack). Then he'll get an attack of opportunity on each enemy tripped succefully and if one of those enemies die, it will trigger Cleaving Finish, an extra attack who will normally hit another enemy in reach but thanks to the kneepad, it will hit every remaining enemies in that large Area instead, attempting a Trip against those who managed to resist the first time (it will be rare as the combat maneuver bonus will be very high) or dodged the first attack. And if during thoses new attacks, another enemy die, another cleaving finish will hit everyone and so on.

There is so much group of demons i killed instantly by just using a cleave from my Dog, thanks to thoses chains of attacks.
And remember, if some opponents survive, they will trigger opportunity attacks once they get's up at their turn.
every attack of opportunity made by the dog will be made with bite and trip (even if transormed in dragon or smilodon as they both have bite as their main attack even if they have also claw, wings tails attacks, etc).
And thanks to polymorph, you'll still get several attack per turn against single enemy.

For the MC, i made a Hungerseed tiefling (bonus to STR, WIS and combat maneuvers) to put at good use those combat maneuvers feats i get for me and the dog.
and i also used cleave feats and also Vital Strike (very good as UH can cast leap blade to increase size and damage of the weapon).

IF you want more details, feel free to ask.
Última edição por juzam_djinn_fr; 6/out./2022 às 16:13
JediLordNathan 8/out./2022 às 13:43 
I happen to have this same issue and it is part of the reason I've been unable to finish the game, that and I play modded so Owlcat inadvertantly ruins my playthroughs fairly often with patches, but for me there is the problem that there are too many options and when I pick one I feel like I'm missing out on others, now there are some I have zero problems missing out on just due to personal preferance and personal taste, so I for example will never have the Legend acheivement because I don't like the path because it gives too little for what you give up and I don't like the person that suggest the path to begin with for my own reasons, the same can be said of the True Aeon because I can't bring myself to play in such a manner and to an extent Swarm too because I simply can't think up a good build or character type to make it work in both a roleplaying and mechanic sense to make it work.
Having too many options is both a blessing and a curse, a blessing for replayability but a curse because you can get too finicky over what you want to do in a given playthrough especially if you are completionist like me that does NOT like missing out on anything.
Última edição por JediLordNathan; 8/out./2022 às 13:44
KM 9/out./2022 às 22:31 
Escrito originalmente por Nero:

- Animal Companion
- No bow user (I played an Erastil Cleric in Kingmaker)
- Fits into a good / neutral party (good / neutral needs a tank or healer, right?)
- Either Angel, Azata or Legend

Magus Arcane Rider is pretty solid , and there is no magus companion in this game. Go for it!
Nero 18/fev./2023 às 1:41 
Escrito originalmente por juzam_djinn_fr:
i'm in act 5 of a hard last azlanti run with a build who is very funny to play (and perform really well) and where the big star of the party is not me but my Animal companion.
It will fit well your criteria.
You can be Azata and switch legend later if you want.

The build i used is 16 urban hunter / 4 mutation Warrior (the last 4 fighters levels were to be able to reach 16 BAB at lvl 20 to take Greater Vital Strike but it's not mandatory)

Urban hunter (UH) can only use Dog, and it's perfect because it's the best pet for what we want to do, his bite will trip ennemies and he'll get the highest STR among animal companions.
UH is also the only class who can give those 2 feats to your pet (it will also gives those feats to yourself) :

- greater trip (need 13 int. normally) who gives an attack of opportunity on each ennemy tripped by your pet (in addition to the regular opportunity attack you'll get when the ennemy gets up).
- lunge who increase the reach of the bite of your Dog (like it's a reach weapon) making the bite hitting a larger area.

You'll choose the agressor subclass for your pet to make him gain power attack feat at level 1, allowing him to get Cleave (who req. power attack) at level 1 too.
and it give "bleeding Strike" who make your first attack every round applying bleed on the ennemy for 1D6 per round (can stack and can only be removed if the ennemy receive a heal) and bleeding strike gives also a bonus of up to +4 attack and damage to the Dog against bleeding target.

Your pet will be medium size at lvl 1, it will grow to Large at lvl 7, then can be increased to huge at level 9 when Nenio will buff him with Animal Growth (increase size by one and gives a +8 size bonus to STR among other bonuses), and at level 13, with Nenio Polymorph, Greater spell, you can turn your pet into a smilodon (if you need pounce) or a Dragon (gargantuan size) to gives him a polymorph bonus to STR, he'll be able to reach over 70 STR in the endgame.
Your size (if you're big) gives you a special bonus to combat maneuvers, the bigger you are, the bigger the bonus.

There is a Fantastic KneePad you can find in the first half of the game and equip the dog with:
- Knee Pads of Mighty Swipe :
Whenever the wearer of these knee pads lands a killing blow with a natural weapon, they gain a +2 bonus on their next attack roll, and this attack deals damage to all adjacent enemies on a successful hit.

WIth his Size and Lunge feat, he will be able to attack in an area larger than a fireball Area when polymorphed as a Dragon, and with the full Cleave Feat line, you can Cleave all ennemies in that big Area with your bite, it will attempt a Trip on each ennemy hit, applying Bleeding Strike on every ennemy hit because cleave is a single attack and the first one of the round despite the fact it hit several targets (and get +50% STR bonus damage as a single natural attack). Then he'll get an attack of opportunity on each enemy tripped succefully and if one of those enemies die, it will trigger Cleaving Finish, an extra attack who will normally hit another enemy in reach but thanks to the kneepad, it will hit every remaining enemies in that large Area instead, attempting a Trip against those who managed to resist the first time (it will be rare as the combat maneuver bonus will be very high) or dodged the first attack. And if during thoses new attacks, another enemy die, another cleaving finish will hit everyone and so on.

There is so much group of demons i killed instantly by just using a cleave from my Dog, thanks to thoses chains of attacks.
And remember, if some opponents survive, they will trigger opportunity attacks once they get's up at their turn.
every attack of opportunity made by the dog will be made with bite and trip (even if transormed in dragon or smilodon as they both have bite as their main attack even if they have also claw, wings tails attacks, etc).
And thanks to polymorph, you'll still get several attack per turn against single enemy.

For the MC, i made a Hungerseed tiefling (bonus to STR, WIS and combat maneuvers) to put at good use those combat maneuvers feats i get for me and the dog.
and i also used cleave feats and also Vital Strike (very good as UH can cast leap blade to increase size and damage of the weapon).

IF you want more details, feel free to ask.

I went for this build and finished the game finally yesterday.


It's been a while but I want to thank everybody for their replies.
This games community is cool
juzam_djinn_fr 18/fev./2023 às 10:40 
Escrito originalmente por Nero:
I went for this build and finished the game finally yesterday.


It's been a while but I want to thank everybody for their replies.
This games community is cool

I'm glad you used this build, I hope you had fun with it :)
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