Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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greckoboy Nov 26, 2021 @ 7:47pm
Necessity for improved precise shot
I noticed that, for maybe the past few weeks or so, I started to miss enemies more often with Lann's arrows due to concealment. Sometimes it happens even when there are no obstructions but Lann is shooting uphill - it happened a lot for the ghouls while climbing up to reach the Lost Chapel. I don't think any of those ghouls had the blur buff.

Is anyone aware if maybe Owlcat deliberately fixed/buffed cover concealment in this game or something? Because if it was a deliberate fix, then it seems to make Improved Precise Shot a mandatory feat for archers since true seeing doesn't affect cover concealment. Are there any spells that I can use to circumvent this? Picking up improved precise shot in my current build for Lann would mean giving up Improved Critical, which I would rather not do.
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Dalaule Nov 30, 2021 @ 6:12am 
I've noticed this, also. But I notched it down as the weather impacting the battle?
GunStarX Nov 30, 2021 @ 7:02am 
Originally posted by greckoboy:
I noticed that, for maybe the past few weeks or so, I started to miss enemies more often with Lann's arrows due to concealment. Sometimes it happens even when there are no obstructions but Lann is shooting uphill - it happened a lot for the ghouls while climbing up to reach the Lost Chapel. I don't think any of those ghouls had the blur buff.

Is anyone aware if maybe Owlcat deliberately fixed/buffed cover concealment in this game or something? Because if it was a deliberate fix, then it seems to make Improved Precise Shot a mandatory feat for archers since true seeing doesn't affect cover concealment. Are there any spells that I can use to circumvent this? Picking up improved precise shot in my current build for Lann would mean giving up Improved Critical, which I would rather not do.

It comes later, but true seeing and see invisibility should make most of the issues go away. Just need someone with enduring spells to cast on party
Kel'Ithra Dec 3, 2021 @ 11:34am 
Originally posted by GunStarX:
Originally posted by greckoboy:
I noticed that, for maybe the past few weeks or so, I started to miss enemies more often with Lann's arrows due to concealment. Sometimes it happens even when there are no obstructions but Lann is shooting uphill - it happened a lot for the ghouls while climbing up to reach the Lost Chapel. I don't think any of those ghouls had the blur buff.

Is anyone aware if maybe Owlcat deliberately fixed/buffed cover concealment in this game or something? Because if it was a deliberate fix, then it seems to make Improved Precise Shot a mandatory feat for archers since true seeing doesn't affect cover concealment. Are there any spells that I can use to circumvent this? Picking up improved precise shot in my current build for Lann would mean giving up Improved Critical, which I would rather not do.

It comes later, but true seeing and see invisibility should make most of the issues go away. Just need someone with enduring spells to cast on party

Just a ton of stuff later on also completely ignores True Seeing, like they made up stuff to ensure it wouldn't be working during some encounters.
kirill-busidow Dec 6, 2021 @ 2:39am 
Originally posted by Kel'Ithra:
Originally posted by GunStarX:

It comes later, but true seeing and see invisibility should make most of the issues go away. Just need someone with enduring spells to cast on party

Just a ton of stuff later on also completely ignores True Seeing, like they made up stuff to ensure it wouldn't be working during some encounters.

Can you give examples?
rumpelstiltskin Dec 7, 2021 @ 6:28am 
i was fighting deskari the other day, and wenduag missed like 5 out of 6 shots due to concealment, despite having true seeing and improved precise shot. nocticula also had 20% concealment that ignored true seeing.
kirill-busidow Dec 7, 2021 @ 10:25am 
Originally posted by rumpelstiltskin:
i was fighting deskari the other day, and wenduag missed like 5 out of 6 shots due to concealment, despite having true seeing and improved precise shot. nocticula also had 20% concealment that ignored true seeing.

Improved precise shot does nothing for 50% concealment, only helps with 20%.
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