[Spoilers]The story with Iomedae

[Brian Sirith]

[rant follows. I have now cooled down and rant has served it’s purpose. Leaving it here… just because.]

I roleplay and I wanted to play Angel. Not Legend. And they pop Iomedae the good goddess the one from HEAVEN and incidentally my goddess telling me that my powers aren’t from heaven but from the Abyss. At least when Areelu said so I ignored her. But NO!!! LETS POP THE INHERITOR HERSELF TELLING YOU TO GIVE UP THE POWER! And I got Nocticula that supports me keeping my powers…

Right… thanks for the amazing choice. Believe that a Heavenly Godess, MY Godess is lying (?) and go with the play soooo trustworthy Areelu and Nocticula want. Certainly something a guy with the attitude of an Angel would do. I mean… Angels went and locked themselves in the Wardstones when Iomedae asked but THIS Angel will tell her no? Right? EXACTLY WHY WILL THIS ANGEL UNLIKE EVERY OTHER NOT LISTEN TO IOMEDAE WRITTERS?

Also I’ve been hearing: Areelu! The Architect! Manipulates you and you don’t even know it! So yeah… I’m definitely keeping whatever she gave.

But wait! My party members suggest I keep the power cause I can… control it. Right. I have a wound in my chest that randomly opens, I have new info coming in at every bend but… suuure I can control it. What crap! And it’s Heavenly power cause??? I have a halo and a fiery sword? Demons can’t do that? Again… crap. Where is my reason to keep it as an actually good person?

Anyway… wanted to say that.

[Kel'Ithra]

Funny thing is Areelu is the only one in the entire game that doesn't try to manipulate you or lie to you. She has no reason to, she's mostly guiding you through it, but making you think and question everything as you go forward like a good seeker of knowledge should. She does test you constantly for good reasons, but never tries to force you into one path or the other, nor try to make you choose, she just wants you to learn, understand and figure it all out.

While Iomedae and Nocti have their agenda. Iomedae doesn't want you to learn to truth about who and what you are, and doesn't want you to ascend since you'll break the balance, and they can't stop you from doing anything once you ascend. And Nocti is using you in order for herself to ascend the easy way instead of doing it the hard way via the redeemer cult that originates in the Adventure path if you support Ember. Like seriously everyone lies and uses you in this game, and not really surprising you have powers no one understands, everyone kind of fears you to a degree. Your an unpredictable pawn on the table that depending on your characters personality and path can be extremely unpredictable and frightening, like my Azata she was treated with fear.
My Azata called out Nocti and gave Iomedae the finger, she was not having it anymore after surviving the abyss and literally turning Nocti's playground into a massive wreck covered in plants and the rest of her entourage.

[Mantaness]

I've got to the same point right now and feeling just the same as you did.

I was playing the typical rock-hard tight good guy aasimar paladin of Iomedae with angel mythic, and was going to stick to that.

But after a loooooong time thinking which path should I choose, I thought paladins shouldn't disobey their deity (unless you're going to dump them).

So I chose to go legendary even if I didn't like it much to play.

As for the angel path, I'll visit them with another character with a different deity on another run.

(Was anticipating more like bestowing some real heaven power by Iomedae herself, though.)

[Brian Sirith]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Mantaness:

I've got to the same point right now and feeling just the same as you did.

I was playing the typical rock-hard tight good guy aasimar paladin of Iomedae with angel mythic, and was going to stick to that.

But after a loooooong time thinking which path should I choose, I thought paladins shouldn't disobey their deity (unless you're going to dump them).

So I chose to go legendary even if I didn't like it much to play.

As for the angel path, I'll visit them with another character with a different deity on another run.

(Was anticipating more like bestowing some real heaven power by Iomedae herself, though.)

I kept it after all (didn’t fit the character who was 100% chain of command* unless superiors were asking for something really unacceptable but whatever). It’s a really nice story after that if you ignore them trying to make a rebel out of a character you never wanted to be a rebel. But after that horrible point with Iomedae the roleplay is smooth. Kinda. Mostly. No other rage inducing moments :P

*For that matter most of my characters (I say my cause I don’t wanna speak for others who might roleplay religious characters different) from lawful to chaotic would obey THEIR god. If they didn’t think the god wise, smart, cool and funky… why are they worshiping him/her?

[CloudKira]

It would be indeed nicer if it was possible to convince her that the Player character deserves the Mythic powers or that he/she had proven beyond the demonic influence of the power boost received. That its less about the power source and more about actions. Besides the PC seems to essentially make said power his/her own and potentially change its nature altogether (like making in angelic for Angels or Azatas).

Kinda like it being possible for a PC to avoid a demotion from the Queen. Or still being respected by the Hand of the Inheritor after the reveal.

[jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi]

Iomedae can go suck a lemon, my character and me personally don't give a damn about her desires and wants. Especially my character who is WAY older then she is and is WAY more powerful, I really don't like her condescending nature and the fact that she is lawfully stupid and presumes to know better then me, also I would refuse to follow her advise on personal reasons alone but the fact that she gives advice to someone who has done WAY more then she has and whose followers have proven themselves inept well she can go stuff herself.
I know she has her reasons to stay out of the whole thing but my opinion is that if you are staying out of the whole thing don't give advise or lecture the person actually doing the work especially when that person doesn't worship you and hates the dogma from those that do.
My opinion of Iomedae is that I hate her due to her superiority complex, her interferance in a situation she was solidly hands off of up till that point, and her giving advise to someone who is way smarter and way older then her. Also for giving powers to people that really shouldn't have them as they end up using them to do immense harm and little good.
If she wanted to help the Crusade she could have given some divine revelation and intelligence regarding the demons to her followers during the course of the war she could have told Staunton that Minagho was a demon, she could have told Halrun that there was a flaw in the wardstone and to let it be repaired, she could have told Galfrey to NOT march on Iz leaving Drezen defenseless hell I can think of many times where just saying something not even needing to directly come down to do something just you know appearing in a vision or giving divine revelation would have helped immensely, instead she shows up at the eleventh hour when I've got everything on lockdown and am happy with my current choices to try and tell me I'm doing things wrong even though I've got the advantage as is.
Ultimately I think she is jealous and afraid: afraid that I will choose to ascend to divine status as a Demi-God and likely later on an actual God and cause Mendev to worship me instead of her. Well I'll take Areelu's offer and ascend hell I'll let Areelu, Galfrey and my companions ascend with me just to prove her wrong just to spite her and to give Mendev someone worthy of respect and worship someone that actually did something that actually led and brought victory the demontide and that is just the path I've chosen a path that is ultimately a path of true freedom one which I'm my own deity and completely in charge of my own realm, fate and have everything I want.

[jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Mantaness:

I've got to the same point right now and feeling just the same as you did.

I was playing the typical rock-hard tight good guy aasimar paladin of Iomedae with angel mythic, and was going to stick to that.

But after a loooooong time thinking which path should I choose, I thought paladins shouldn't disobey their deity (unless you're going to dump them).

So I chose to go legendary even if I didn't like it much to play.

As for the angel path, I'll visit them with another character with a different deity on another run.

(Was anticipating more like bestowing some real heaven power by Iomedae herself, though.)

Personally I think there are moments when gameplay should trump roleplay, especially in the case of the Legend which when you look at it logically doesn't offer much of use, yeah it gives a higher level cap BUT you've already beaten most of the game by that point thus don't need it, second taking it throws away all the progression you've made so far, for me its a matter of enjoyment and personally I would not enjoy the Legend path as it really offers so little and the little it offers is irrelevent by the point in the game that it's offered, much like the Devil and Golden Dragon path but at least the latter two have something unique that can be useful, whereas an increased level cap towards endgame is not very useful.