Okay I really have to ask now... What the heck is stopping this charge?

[Silamon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2976429269

There is no obstruction, and if I move my cavalier just a little closer she can charge the next turn. Is it literally the different tile she doesn't want to charge over? The charge rules really make me scratch my head in this game sometimes...


Why is the first one blocked but this one is not?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2976430747

What is blocking the charge in the first image?

[Silamon]

I feel like I am just wasting my time on having a gendarme, the charges are too inconsistent.

[knowthyself2]

Game would benefit from a visible grid

[Silamon]

And another question....
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2976441903

Why didn't that charge get the spirited charge bonus? Does it not stack with critical hits?

That critical hit actually did less damage than a non critical with spirited charge because it normally multiplies the modifiers too, but that critical only increased the damage dice to 4d4 instead of 2d4

4d4 rolled 11, +16 from modifiers is 27, x2 for critical should have been 54, then other effects should have made it 60... right? I guess I just don't get how a critical hit with spirited charge did less damage than I normally got for just a regular charge hit

[Raven]

Orientation. Charge is a DIRECTLY FRONT LINE to the target with no obstruction. You're facing the wrong direction, so you have to turn around, thus invalidating charge.

to clarify: I am pretty sure there is an angle of allowance, but 180 degrees is definitely beyond it. You can charge from angles that are in front of you, but not behind you

[Silamon]

Originally posted by Raven:

Orientation. Charge is a DIRECTLY FRONT LINE to the target with no obstruction. You're facing the wrong direction, so you have to turn around, thus invalidating charge

Seriously? I will try and test that next time then. Could swear I have charged like that before but it does make sense.

Any idea on the second question? Does critical hit and spirited charge not stack?

[Silamon]

Okay, one more question.

What is blocking this one?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2976446916
She can move directly to the target, without needing to path around anything.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2976447326
But it still says path to target is blocked.

Just trying to figure out what exactly the rules are for charging because if I am going to run a gendarme, I need to be charging...

[Raven]

Originally posted by Silamon:

Originally posted by Raven:

Orientation. Charge is a DIRECTLY FRONT LINE to the target with no obstruction. You're facing the wrong direction, so you have to turn around, thus invalidating charge

Seriously? I will try and test that next time then. Could swear I have charged like that before but it does make sense.

Any idea on the second question? Does critical hit and spirited charge not stack?

I dunno, I have little experience with mounted combat (literally trying it in the next play through I do) but the resources I read involve lance and stuff and I'm not entirely sure whats going on or if Nulkineth has some sort of special ability since hes kind of a special character

[Raven]

Originally posted by Silamon:

Okay, one more question.

What is blocking this one?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2976446916
She can move directly to the target, without needing to path around anything.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2976447326
But it still says path to target is blocked.

Just trying to figure out what exactly the rules are for charging because if I am going to run a gendarme, I need to be charging...

its dumb, but it looks like your horse just ever so slightly clips into Irabeth's space and thus blocking you (your area of the mount overlaps with her space). This is part of why being game controlled is a bit of a downer because its a bit too inflexible, it just takes a couple of pixels to make it ineligible

[Korelis]

I think little bits of rubble on the ground like that do prevent charging. I had Seelah as a cavalier, and it was a constant problem trying to charge, she needed completely smooth flat ground, even if there was nothing that actually hinders movement.

The game needs the dimensional assault feat if it's going to make normal charging so troublesome.

[Silamon]

So she can path in a straight line for a full round attack, but she can't charge.

That... really is dumb. Starting to rethink the whole character then.

The first playthrough I did was with a Fearsome Leader cavalier with 7 levels in 2 handed fighter, so he basically just did full round attacks instead of charging. But I wanted to try a charge build with Gendarme...

[Raven]

Originally posted by Korelis:

I think little bits of rubble on the ground like that do prevent charging. I had Seelah as a cavalier, and it was a constant problem trying to charge, she needed completely smooth flat ground, even if there was nothing that actually hinders movement.

The game needs the dimensional assault feat if it's going to make normal charging so troublesome.

less than the rubble (unless its difficult terrain which I am unsure of) I'm pretty sure its Irabeth that's blocking the charge there

[Silamon]

So apparently spirited charge just isn't working.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2976454507

No critical hit that time, no x2 from spirited charge...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2976454870
I don't see why the npc being a boss would turn off a core mechanic, I guess I can test it against other characters though.

[Aldain]

Glad to see charge is just as comically broken as it was at launch...

[Silamon]

Originally posted by Aldain:

Glad to see charge is just as comically broken as it was at launch...

It was working before... IDK why it stopped. I guess I will try charging one of his minions to see if it works on those.

Edit:
It worked on the ghoul.... Why would Nulkineth be immune to taking extra damage from a feat?