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this one just seems to be giving me my authority
again, explaining my authoritah
this one seems to be the relevant one.
he is a civilian. A tavernkeep, not a soldier.
My character also accuses him of "fraud", so i figured this was the one that should have applied.
he's not a soldier or officer, so not this one (?)
he's not a cultist or demon follower and this isn't heresy. .
he's not pillaging or looting
he's not a preacher
this is sort of what he's doing, but not, because he's selling harmless fake drugs instead of the real thing, and even if it does aplly, why would my aeon be imprisoning him, right after putting the other one to death?
not a deserter
not a murderer
not a soldier
not a soldier
what am I missing herr, that you caught?
also
again i see this with jannah at the molten vrocks cave. i can accuse her of desertion.
my "lawful" option is to imprison her.
she is not "caught in the act" , so obviously, i'm not putting her to death
there is an option to kill her
there's also an option to just set her free.
the "laws" say she "should be arrested and sent to the front to serve in a condemned unit"
unless, is that what i'm doing when i pick the lawful option?
the dialogue says "she's a deserter, we will rescue her, but she's going straight into a cell".
does my character send her to the condemned unit later?
i went back to drezen and looked in the prison and she's there, but i'm not able to interact with her.
i mean, whatever, i just bought an atonement scroll to snap back to chaotic neutral and i'm planning to abandon this path for the legend path.
i'm just discussing this just on the merit of the writing and is there something i'm just not getting about the logic of this path?
edit : for the record, I chose to forgive him, on the condition that he shares the profits with me and i gained diplomacy points and that's that
The law specifically says "Any civilian attached to the crusades who is a subject of Mendev, who deceives, engages in fraud or breaks agreements shall be sentenced to banishment from Drezen."
The bartender is a subject of Mendev and he is engaging in fraud by selling fake drugs as a placebo.
When you want to play as an aeon, things are truly that cut and dry. There is no "well, it works under these circumstances" or "well if you do it this way it still counts, right?" Nope. Aeons are "you engaged in fraud, you are banished forthwith because the law says you are". Your own authority does not matter in the slightest, only what the law says.
But on topic, ultimately its the individual player's interpretation that matters. Which is why there are choices instead of just one option. Personally I saw the imprison option as putting him into holding until there could be a proper trial, and not just skipping the legal process. He could still be banished.
Aeon destroys it by sending what is inside to the their deserved planes. E.g. Heaven and Hell since, based on some of the dialogue regarding Aeons and the mirror... Aeons believe Outsiders do not belong on that plane and should stay in their home/parent planes. Not to mention the whole deal is not the "intended/natural" part of that plane/world. Both the Wardstones and the breach/scar are unnatural.
IMO, it seems like the Tavern keeper is guilty of article 3 and article 8 of the law. One is banishment and the other is execution, however, he was not selling explicitly harmful powders but his buyers believed they were drugs and the Tavern keeper took over the drug dealer's business. Even though it was just flour/harmless substance.
So, technically he is selling harmful drugs as per 8 AND he was defrauding people as per article 3 (since they were fake). You can't exactly banish someone as well as execute them... so the compromise seems to be imprisonment. After all, he was not "actually" selling drugs but he was pretending to sell them.
TLDR: At least, I think that's the logic behind the "True" judgement. He committed two breaches of the law, but their punishment conflicts, so the verdict is the compromise between the two. Not to mention it is the emotionless option.
I don't disagree. That's the point I was making. Aeon doesn't put the written laws of the land over what it feels is correct to the natural order. There are some countries where demon/devil summoning isn't illegal. And other worse acts.
Aeons are cosmic beings. They reinforce order in the multiverse. (Order, opposing chaos.)
In other words your judgment is your own, Mendevs laws are irrelevant.
I "thought" i was "supposed" to pass judgements based on what's in that book.
i'm fully aware that i could technically do whatever i want to, but i'm asking because some of the situations don't even offer "going by the book" as an option
and then you come in and say "if the book tells you to banish him, then banish him, it's that simple. ."
it's not that simple, because the game doesn't let me banish him.
so i just made him share with me instead
he's either guilty of #3 or #8, which means either banish or execute.
the option i'm given is imprisonment.
that kinda doesn't make sense to be like. "well, they kinds are guilty of 3 but also kinda 8, but frig it, i'll go halfway" and "imprisonment" is "halfway" between banishment and death?
how is that the letter of the law?
i know i could just go and do what the game wants me to do, but meh, i'm switching paths at the next chsnce i get.
maybe i'll try gold dragon, or i can still switch to demon, but most likely i'm gonna do legend.
or mayne i'll jist start over and go for the secret ending, but then i'm saving that for the next playthru.
i want to try trickster as well, since i deliberately did not choose the dialogue that unlocks it, thinking i'd do the skill check for xp instead, simce i wasn't planning on doing trickste, only to find out later, i should have unlocked it even if i wasn't gonna do it, i still should have unlocked it but i didn't
the point of my post was that when given the "option" to make a "judgment", the option to go "by the book" is sometimes not there.
normally, i never play lawful, but mistakes were made at character creation. i started chaotic and then decided i wanted to dip into monk, so i had to choose lawful options and aeon seemed to be the best path t do this
Honestly this kinda soured the route for me when I did it. Realizing how lenient you can be and still be a “true” Aeon.
the scroll says it changes you to the alignment you were at level 1, which for me was chaotic neutral.
it also did a tutorial popup saying that i lost some class powers due to an alignment restriction, but i don't see how there would be a clash, since i'm demonslayer/sohei monk.
i only shifted to lawful to get that dip into monk and then i was gonna use the atonement to snap back to chaotic.
unless, am I now defaulting lawful neutral because i'm an aeon?
yeah, i know i can do whatever i want as an aeon and make chaotic and devil choices and i read about it that there's not really any benefit to doing so and there's no alternate "fallen aeon" ending and if you're not willing to stay true, you may as well switch to something else later.
I was actually considering switching to demon for the rage, but i really like the aeon attack gaze
the whole thing was just, what if what i "wanted" to do was follow the letters of that rulebook to the letter of the law and i actually can't.
of which i was asking if that was intentional design and there's something logical that i'm not seeing it or did they just mess up?