What is wrong with Lann?

[1337DragonWolf]

I tell him I appreciate him AS A FRIEND, and he immediately goes down the romance path. Even in video games guys can't stop girlfriendzoning women! I'm so tired of this garbage, and it sucks that I have to "break it off" even though I didn't intend for "it" to happen in the first place.

[Cutlass Jack]

The main way to keep Lann from going down that path is to shut him down (3rd option) when he comes to your tent saying how he wants to protect you. If its past that point I think you want to avoid 'training' with him.

Taking any of the friend stuff is giving him the green light. Need to shut him down early.

[Schlumpsha]

You might also be interested in the Gracious Friendship[www.nexusmods.com] mod. It adds more dialogue choices to handle such things. Not just for Lann, but other companions as well.

[Happyscientist]

Hey its not like you had Camellia proposition you after you walk in on her murdering the last guy she seduced, drank his blood, then ate a hunk of his flesh while raving about some spirit she trapped in a skull she wears around her neck.

[Meishuu]

LMAO you know he's not real right? It's a bad script/flag choice. Just pick the last option or use a mod. Owlcat really dropped the ball on those dialogue options, but you can just say no to him later. Same thing happens with Sosiel if you're friendly but don't plan on romancing him (male character only).

[Soul]

I think its mainly cause Lann is socially awkward... he's been living in the underground caves for so long and is pretty down about himself.... I mean we pretty much swooped in from the sky (for the mongrels point of view) and got him out of the caves and giving him what he dreamed of being part of the crusades fulfilling him with a purpose and a full belly.... not to mention his only other experience with a relationship as far as I know is with Wenduag... so our character being nice to him is probably along the lines of him seeing so many things falling into place that he desires... that maybe the commander is one of those too...

also the reverse is true too... had a female commander that just was friendly with Sosiel during strike for the sky mission... just "im so glad your ok"... which I didnt see as hitting on him just glad my cleric was there to do his cleric thing is all... and he promptly shut me down like I just asked him out or something... I was like wtf dude calm down....

maybe if our main characters had voice acting we'd probably see what some of our dialogue options are really sounding like instead of assuming...

[Sgt. Flaw]

♥♥♥♥ Lann...Lann sucks..

Best evil murder in any game was having him ripped to shreads by his own kind hehe

[Soul]

Originally posted by Sgt. Flaw:

♥♥♥♥ Lann...Lann sucks..

Best evil murder in any game was having him ripped to shreads by his own kind hehe

I bet I know what was going on in your mind at the time.... "thanks lann... your so awesome lann"....

[Sgt. Flaw]

Originally posted by Soul:

Originally posted by Sgt. Flaw:

♥♥♥♥ Lann...Lann sucks..

Best evil murder in any game was having him ripped to shreads by his own kind hehe

I bet I know what was going on in your mind at the time.... "thanks lann... your so awesome lann"....

lol...he was def. worth the 30 mongrels

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

It's a little weird, yeah. Same as when you tell Sosiel you're glad he wasn't torn apart by gargoyles and he's like "UMMM GUUUURL, I'M FLATTERED, BUT I'M INTO DUDES"

With Lann though, there really isn't any indication that you're even in a relationship at all. He says he's going to stand guard outside the commander's tent, but that's about it. You just sorta do personal quest stuff with him like you do for everyone else, then at a seemingly invisible point you are now considered lovers by the game.

I just wanna platonically have battlements kung fu with my lizard bro :(

[1337DragonWolf]

Originally posted by Meishuu:

LMAO you know he's not real right?

I am well aware that he isn't real, as should have been evident in my post. Don't laugh at people for your lack of reading comprehension.

[Soul]

Originally posted by Super Cosmic Space Magnet:

It's a little weird, yeah. Same as when you tell Sosiel you're glad he wasn't torn apart by gargoyles and he's like "UMMM GUUUURL, I'M FLATTERED, BUT I'M INTO DUDES"

With Lann though, there really isn't any indication that you're even in a relationship at all. He says he's going to stand guard outside the commander's tent, but that's about it. You just sorta do personal quest stuff with him like you do for everyone else, then at a seemingly invisible point you are now considered lovers by the game.

I just wanna platonically have battlements kung fu with my lizard bro :(

true... but look at his background... he's a mongrel meaning he has a shorter lifespan than normal people.... so pretty sure the whole procreation drive is a lot faster for them than with other races with longer lifespans.... I mean it seems like in these games the longer the lifespan the slower to reproduce and all.... plus the fact that he was one of the best hunters in his tribe I imagine he would have been a catch for other tribeswomen given their culture as hunters and warriors...

but based off of Lann's decision to hook up with Wenduag.... the chiefs daughter (important person)... strong and in charge type of woman.... well.... we kinda match his type of woman it would appear...

not to mention he probably also got dating advice from Wenduag... who probably told him things like "if a woman is nice to you that means she's interested so grow a pair and make a move" or something along those lines i'd imagine... he looked up to her before afterall...

[hilburnashua]

Look at Lann's charisma. That is an indication of his base ability at social interaction. So he comes on strong when he isn't completely shut down because that one way a person with little social grace and strong feelings could react in that situation.

Taking that and his background into consideration, I would say Owlcat did some work thinking through his romance interaction.

[1337DragonWolf]

Originally posted by hilburnashua:

Look at Lann's charisma. That is an indication of his base ability at social interaction. So he comes on strong when he isn't completely shut down because that one way a person with little social grace and strong feelings could react in that situation.

Taking that and his background into consideration, I would say Owlcat did some work thinking through his romance interaction.

Yeah, they may have taken Lann's interactions into consideration, but clearly not the commander's interactions. He might not be very social, but she is a bit more worldly. Her responses to Lann should be taken literally if he needs social handholding so much, but the game is waaay too fast in assuming he can jump from "You're a good friend!" to "Let's make mongrel/angel hybrid babies!", especially without there possibly being a "Listen, there was clearly a case of miscommunication somewhere along the line..." type of situation.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

Lann is literally a caveman, I'm not saying his personality is poorly considered - but rather, the flag for "the commander is now in a relationship with Lann" flag seems to get turned to "yes" without the commander ever really agreeing to it. There's no moment of locking in the affair, no sex, and battlements kung fu is the closest you ever come to a date with him. Everything else is just the commander being a decent person in the same way they might be to any other companion.

[1337DragonWolf]

Originally posted by Super Cosmic Space Magnet:

Lann is literally a caveman, I'm not saying his personality is poorly considered - but rather, the flag for "the commander is now in a relationship with Lann" flag seems to get turned to "yes" without the commander ever really agreeing to it. There's no moment of locking in the affair, no sex, and battlements kung fu is the closest you ever come to a date with him. Everything else is just the commander being a decent person in the same way they might be to any other companion.

If that was how it worked, she would be in a relationship with most people she talks to, including Ember! That's a problem!