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INC3NSUS

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Apr 15, 2023 @ 3:05pm

So just did the inn fight... I get this is a old subject but..

I was not expecting Helms Deep at like level 3, the characters that sit there should not be in the turn order until maybe the big guy shows or something gets close, and that should have been a level of xp sorry long grueling unexpected (ish) fight of epic proportions..

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Originally posted by Soul:

Originally posted by INC3NSUS:

Ok Soul guess I am OCD too the loss of xp annoyed me so ... number 4 restart. But thanks for the info seriously was wondering why I was lvl 3 for that fight.

if it helps... here's what I do for my OCD Act 1 run....

for sake of my sanity ima refer to "share xp with active party members ONLY" as just "xp share"... also this is from me playing on Normal difficulty with increased enemies on...

starting out turn on "xp share" and follow through till meet Seelah... go through dialogue and all till it says "end dialogue"... thats the trigger that makes her join party... once you reach that slide just hit escape and switch "xp share off" so that she joins your party mirroring the same amount of experience as your main character... double check it works then turn on "xp share" on again... go on to meet camellia and go through her dialogue... some xp there and at "end dialogue" do the same turn off then click on end dialogue and double check and then turn it back on again.... clear up to Lann and Wenduag dialogue and you'll hit level 2... find the sword and then dialogue with the mongrels about it will trigger... that point of "end dialogue" you do it again right before both join... switch off then end dialogue and they'll be waiting to level up to level 2 as well... switch it back on and go through as normal...

Act 1 I dont recruit woljif but I gather and do everything I can at defenders heart including talking to him one time to just have irabeth tell me I can take him but I dont just yet... i pick up everything including Vorn's quest to find the drow (dont bother about failing its so high of a check I can still get xp for it when I meet her and its lower check)... and make sure I buy the bag of holding for more carry weight before leaving... (also there is a woman who is having a debate... I make sure I fail the debate and let the pink eye person say something... you get more rewards for failing it that way and item is decent for Seelah horse later on)

after done with defenders heart I make my way towards tower of estrod... clear the silken thread zone right before it (pick up loot in boxes and house and drop them off outside of house and leave so you stay as light load as possible) and stop by material stops along the way... usually hit level 4 at silken thread or earlier if I had random encounter.... clear tower of estrod (main is sorcerer so using grease helps a LOT).... loot everything as normal and when finished go back to silken thread to pick up items dropped off.... and head back to defenders heart to sell and turn in quest for tower for a boost of xp... (before leaving I buy pots and scrolls of cure light wounds... all of em... and go through pots first cause they are heavier... and a scroll of remove blindness for necromancer fight... a scroll of protection from fire for brimorok fight...and a death ward scroll for succubus fight)

head to market square and do everything but pick up Ember... (and dont pick up loot except in crates or houses.. to stay light load and prevent fatigue from kicking in) especially tieflings and telling Hulrun to leave raimen alone... thats a lot of xp and by time you do those 2 your probably close to level 5... after clearing everything but Ember trigger I drop all loot im not using before I leave and start making my way to Irabeths house for Nenio trigger...

btw when I say I drop loot I mean just weapons and armor...

at Nenio's event I pop on the item that can give +5 to skill checks on Seelah and have it for world checks... and camellia i have for religion normally and with those 2 I can pretty much pass all knowledge world and religion checks for her little event pretty decently.... talking with Nenio and when it reaches "end dialogue" I do turn off "xp share" and have her join and then turn it back on again since im at 5 companions now... loot everything in her quest then head back to market square for a second to drop off the loot you picked up...

then head to Irabeths place and clear outside area.... then.... this is where I REST for the first time since waking up in defenders heart... lol... I make sure I have camellia prepare a protection from evil to prevent the succubus inside from charming my party members... and use the scroll of death ward on Seelahs horse to prevent level drain... I normally open with glitterdust on sorcerer but make sure Seelah engages succubus on horseback so horse is taking the hits and immune to level drain thanks to death ward.... clear area and loot everything...

leave Irabeths place and clear all areas leading daerans location... clear that area but dont talk to daeran... just the desna follower and then head back to market square... and drop off all the loot youve collected to get back into light load.... and finish desna quest... then leave and skip library and make way to cellar and clear it before doubling back to library and finish it and use option to leave with storyteller.... talk to everyone inside to finish up quests and i'll hit level 6.... then I go to basement and talk to woljif... and when it reaches "end dialogue" i "xp share" off and leave it off since we are at 6 party members now and thats the standard of how xp is divided...

go upstairs and trigger Ulbrig and talk to woljif... also after picking up Wolfij and Ulbrig is when I REST for the second time... lol... do Woljif's questline.... then go to daerans and pick him up... then go to market square and pick up Ember, enter house, finish ritual, kill the vrock... then I go to the exit of market square and choose to leave with all items so I can travel the world map while overencumbered.... on world map I usually save and pray RNG gods will let me make it back to defenders heart without a encounter... if not I just reload lol... otherwise you gotta drop items and pick em up again while leaving...

rest up once... and next time you try to rest time passes and the tavern defense triggers.. do it.. then I go back to market square and clear the new groups of enemies before returning and starting gray garrison... after gray garrison you'll be close to level 7 at that point that you could ding right there in camp before leaving...

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Cutlass Jack has Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Apr 15, 2023 @ 3:20pm

Even though I play in turn based, the Inn fight is the one time I swap to Real time. Its much more enjoyable with that many people in the fight.

Nito

Apr 15, 2023 @ 6:52pm

The best part of the game putting archers in high places, holding positions behind the friends and putting a Entangling + Grease everywhere carnage begins

Cutlass Jack has Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Apr 15, 2023 @ 6:57pm

I usually like having Nenio throw pits at each gate. Just so fun when they all fall in.

But last time I went with the new Burning Entangle spell. Barely needed the archer part.

Nito

Apr 15, 2023 @ 7:07pm

Wish Drezen were like that

Icedfate

Apr 15, 2023 @ 8:45pm

i did the inn fight in turn based, and i wonder if it would have been better in real time. i was confused about the enemies spawning in at the broken gate, it seems like they are infinite spawns, like the battle never ends until you kill specific targets.
i had all my guys clustered at the gate and literally , every time i killed an enemy, another one popped in to take its place. Iit felt like i must have killed like 100 enemies. . eventually the minotaur appeared and disengaged everyone when the minotaur popped out the opposite side.
ember got lucky and procked slimber on the minotaur.

Last edited by Icedfate; Apr 15, 2023 @ 8:45pm

Nito

Apr 15, 2023 @ 8:53pm

If i am correct the Bombers are the trigger of the quest you have to go specially after them otherwise the next wave wont trigger....

Korelis

Apr 15, 2023 @ 9:15pm

I was playing in real-time up to that point, but grease and pit were bugged and didn't do anything to units that walked through them. They were only bugged in RTwP, they worked fine in turn-based. In turn-based, the fight ended up lasting 5 hours (not an exaggeration), 39 rounds. Although it would have gone a lot faster if I'd had an archer or a full party (I refused both Wenduag and Lann).

After it was all finally over, my reward was a small amount of experience and a handful of gold, I didn't even get to loot the enemies. That got a laugh out of me.

Crusader993 has Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Apr 15, 2023 @ 10:51pm

Originally posted by Korelis:

I refused both Wenduag and Lann.

Both?

What made you do it?

Archers are among the most useful fighters at all stages of the game. In my opinion, Wendu in particular is indispensable as a damage dealer. (Only Ember is even more effective.)

In fact, I have both of them (Lann & Wendu) in the base formation in my current run. (Not yet in the Inn fight, of course, but from act 3.) In a combo, these two pretty much smash everything. :)

Last edited by Crusader993; Apr 15, 2023 @ 10:59pm

Soul

Apr 15, 2023 @ 11:03pm

umm.... im usually level 6 by the time I do the Inn defense....

I do the whole thing turn based... just cause I like having the micro to make it more effecient.... which with my 3 selective greases casted right before starting event in key locations... it pretty much allows me total control of battlefield.... and the ability to keep my units grouped up and the ability to regroup to rebuff haste... so I can provide haste the whole fight with extend rod...

INC3NSUS

Apr 15, 2023 @ 11:16pm

not sure how its triggered but happened bloody early for me, still one but its a bit rough if your not ready for it.

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Icedfate

Apr 16, 2023 @ 4:50am

Originally posted by Soul:
umm.... im usually level 6 by the time I do the Inn defense....

how the frig did you manage that?
i just barely dinged level 6 at the end of the grey assault at the very and of the entire act

Last edited by Icedfate; Apr 16, 2023 @ 4:50am

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Baldurs_Gate_2 has Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Apr 16, 2023 @ 4:52am

Pretty nice fight, where the enemies with long reach weapons just stab the crusaders at the tavern entrance and they do not move a single step forward to kill them, that's the job of the archers.

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Immortal Reaver Apr 16, 2023 @ 5:03am

Message for you to get to defence of tavern triggers after 3 days.

Respecing takes like 1 day. You can choose for resting to take 3 days at once, it might also set it to 3 days when rest time is set to automatic.

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Soul

Apr 16, 2023 @ 5:43am

Originally posted by Icedfate:
Originally posted by Soul:
umm.... im usually level 6 by the time I do the Inn defense....

how the frig did you manage that?
i just barely dinged level 6 at the end of the grey assault at the very and of the entire act

by doing the xp share "exploit" or rather in my view balance it out.... see the game normally distributes xp across 6 party members worth as a flat rate regardless if you have actually 6 party members or not.... all I do is turn on xp share with active members only at start of game and when I pick up new companions I disable it temporarily at the point where it says "end dialogue" to get them to match my level... then reenable it again right afterwards so that xp is distributed based on my actual party size... also I keep do quests and such in an order that keeps my active party numbers down for more xp... how much it matters is a lot... by time I reach Lann and Wenduag im level 2 after they ask for help for sword conversation... I hit level 3 in the maze less than halfway about.... after prologue I hit level 4 after a few kills or so... first visit to market square I hit level 5.... finishing blackwing library and coming back im at level 6.... and by end of chapter 1 when im in chapter 2 im like a few xp away from hitting level 7 enough to hit it when talking around before even leaving....

of course once you have a party of 6 you no longer need to do the switch anymore and just turn share xp with active party members only to off...

if you want more specifics on how I can give you more info if you want of my "route"... I have OCD so rerolling so much ive seen Act 1 too many times... lol... still havent even finished the game cause i'd reroll over small things and over patches that changes my build...

Last edited by Soul; Apr 16, 2023 @ 5:47am

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