Feint and diva style feats

[Migno]

Any ideias of build to bards to make these feats works Better?

[CHAO$$$]

no
just dont
the requirements are insane and the payoff is nothing

[Bystander36]

If Final Feint is activated when starting a song (it says Feint, but that might include upgrades), it could be very powerful for the group. It's not specifically mentioned, but it might just cause every enemy in the area to lose their dex bonus when starting a song if your bard succeeds a persuasion check.

It does require a bit of an investment, but then again, bards don't have a lot of feat requirements to be useful. Their songs are their strong point, not their combat.

It is something I'm looking to test out with current group.

[Ara]

Diva probably not worth it. Way too feat intensive for a Bard and you only get 1 free action Feint per song activation not per turn.

The Feint line itself though is pretty amazing if you get Final Feint, denying an enemies dex for your entire team's melee attacks is no joke so I could see a place for it.

[Bystander36]

Originally posted by Ara:

Diva probably not worth it. Way too feat intensive for a Bard and you only get 1 free action Feint per song activation not per turn.

The Feint line itself though is pretty amazing if you get Final Feint, denying an enemies dex for your entire team's melee attacks is no joke so I could see a place for it.

I'm wondering if you can activate a song, and immediately deactivate it (I usually do to give more flexibility for next round), if starting it again counts.