Kinetic Sharpshooter is great!

[Banana]

Now my kinetic sharpshooter reached level 13, i can say this class is late boomer, it has the highest mobile, highest attack roll, and one of the best no save debuff. (2 -AC maximum to 10 -AC on enemy)
Basically with 1 burn x 10 minor burn quiver (maximum 40 "arrows"), you can keep using empower composite blast, and it will add all the attack roll, threat range and damage properties on the bow.
I suggest stack all the point blank damage and attack roll, since they can keep moving close range (30 feet) and shoot with better result.

[Triple G]

But the standard kineticist already was the strongest - or one of the strongest classes anyways. Would have been bad to add another sub-class which is weaker i guess...

It´s like a blaster mage, but with unlimited spells - and a smaller spell selection.

[Banana]

Well, now i mainly use this class for debuff purpose, and the damage is quite high, i can hit 150+ now, means can always one shot mage or range attacker.
But yeah... this class can consider really weak before level 11, but hey, i think the blood kinetic even worst isnt it

[Kaze]

Blood Kinetic is not a damage dealer... it's a healer. Wrack does have the benefit of completely ignoring DR (according to the tooltip)... Not sure if it works on like... ghosts and stuff... Maybe you can rattle their ectoplasm... or something.

[Banana]

Originally posted by Kaze:

Blood Kinetic is not a damage dealer... it's a healer. Wrack does have the benefit of completely ignoring DR (according to the tooltip)... Not sure if it works on like... ghosts and stuff... Maybe you can rattle their ectoplasm... or something.

Oh... ok, maybe i should use that class for the healer purpose next time.
Sometimes its hard to play a class differently.

[reidj062]

Originally posted by Banana:

Now my kinetic sharpshooter reached level 13, i can say this class is late boomer, it has the highest mobile, highest attack roll, and one of the best no save debuff. (2 -AC maximum to 10 -AC on enemy)
Basically with 1 burn x 10 minor burn quiver (maximum 40 "arrows"), you can keep using empower composite blast, and it will add all the attack roll, threat range and damage properties on the bow.
I suggest stack all the point blank damage and attack roll, since they can keep moving close range (30 feet) and shoot with better result.

What feats work with it? I keep hearing there's a lot of archer and kineticist feats that don't do anything for it. Also kinda worried about not being able to gather power.

[Draken]

Originally posted by reidj062:

Originally posted by Banana:

Now my kinetic sharpshooter reached level 13, i can say this class is late boomer, it has the highest mobile, highest attack roll, and one of the best no save debuff. (2 -AC maximum to 10 -AC on enemy)
Basically with 1 burn x 10 minor burn quiver (maximum 40 "arrows"), you can keep using empower composite blast, and it will add all the attack roll, threat range and damage properties on the bow.
I suggest stack all the point blank damage and attack roll, since they can keep moving close range (30 feet) and shoot with better result.

What feats work with it? I keep hearing there's a lot of archer and kineticist feats that don't do anything for it. Also kinda worried about not being able to gather power.

I think all the feats that increase damage or attack bonus should work.
The ones that affect firing rate or arrows probably don't work.

[Draken]

What mythic path is going to best?

I think Aoen or Angel might work well.
Or Trickster? Does the Sneak Attack works for the Kinetic Sharpshooter?

[Dave]

Sorry to burst your bubble but..Sharpshooter is just plain worse than Kineticist or EE kine with both having infinite blast shooting by lvl 11 (even before)

You can use the new infusion, giving -10 AC, being mobile all true but....how long can you do that?

A mage/aorcerer/arcanist has more spells than a Sharpshooter (blasts).

Pick a Kineticist...carry the group. Pick a Sharshooter, get carried by the group when your quiver is empty (pretty soon)

Already explained in another post, so i will just give you some lvl 20 numbers

Lvl 20
1 burn = 20 charges
5 burn = 100 charges

1 Composite, empower, maximized, quickened Wall cost 6 charges, so max 16 wall per rest
1 Composite, empowered, whatever else blast will cost an average of 3-5 charges since you have no feat or Mythic ability to lower the cost

A lvl 20 Sharpshooter can shoot around 20-30 powerful blasts per rest......and that is utter CRAP
A lvl 20 mage will shoot like 40+ Hellfire, 40 +Scorching, and still ahve A LOT of spells
A lvl 20 Elemental Engine will open the gates of hell and burn the world down without rest

I'm sorry but this class may be cool in theory...it sux big time in execution

[Dave]

Originally posted by Draken:

What mythic path is going to best?

I think Aoen or Angel might work well.
Or Trickster? Does the Sneak Attack works for the Kinetic Sharpshooter?

For This particular Kineticis, if you really want to play it, Trickster is the best cos you will get the crit line, and if you use Energy Blasts you'll be critting with touch attacks.....meaning you will confirm them all

Then you wil have to rest cos you're out of charges for the day but..thats another issue

[Draken]

I don't think you can actually get the wall. And you can also choose not to make every single blast quickened, empowered and maximised. It's a choice.

You can do it and do a lot of damage in a very short time. But then you are spend.
Or you can use lower burn blasts and can use the quiver longer.

Looks definitely interesting enough to try it out.

[Banana]

Originally posted by Dave:

Originally posted by Draken:

What mythic path is going to best?

I think Aoen or Angel might work well.
Or Trickster? Does the Sneak Attack works for the Kinetic Sharpshooter?

For This particular Kineticis, if you really want to play it, Trickster is the best cos you will get the crit line, and if you use Energy Blasts you'll be critting with touch attacks.....meaning you will confirm them all

Then you wil have to rest cos you're out of charges for the day but..thats another issue

Are you sure??? You know kinetic sharpshooter ONLY benefit from Weapon threat range, not Energy Blast.
And I just level 16 and my composite blast + Rending Arrows are 0 Burns, even i used up all burns I still can do great damage.

[wizard1200]

Originally posted by Dave:

A lvl 20 Sharpshooter can shoot around 20-30 powerful blasts per rest......and that is utter CRAP
A lvl 20 mage will shoot like 40+ Hellfire, 40 +Scorching, and still ahve A LOT of spells
A lvl 20 Elemental Engine will open the gates of hell and burn the world down without rest

I guess that one reason for this is that an EE and especially a mage benefits A LOT from mythic abilities and feats, while they are very underwhelming for a Sharpshooter.

[Dave]

Originally posted by Draken:

I don't think you can actually get the wall.

Tested on lvl 20 Inevitable Excess. Wall was the only blast i could cast without enemies to target,. so yes, u can use it. 6 charges each

Originally posted by Banana:

Are you sure??? You know kinetic sharpshooter ONLY benefit from Weapon threat range, not Energy Blast.

I didn't test if you need to apply the crit increase to the weapon or to the blast. Doesn't really matter. Still blast will go from 20 to what...17-20?, With a touch attack you'll be able to crit a lot more often...so yes..Trickster is the way to go

Composite is 2 burns. Lvl 16 reduces that to 1. Infusion specialization reduced infusion burn by 1. Should still cost you 1 charge in theory, more if u apply Meta on it



In general i am NOT sayin this class is BAD. I'm saying thet it is a lot less powerful than Basic Kine and mostly Elemental Engine, cos has a very limited resources, and what made the Kineticist one of the BEST classes around is the fact it is like a Mage with infinite spells...not anymore


EDIT:
A ray caster, NOT SPONTANEOUS has the same mobility of this class, plus has MORE spell slots, plus do more damage more consistently

[Kaze]

"Comparison is the thief of Joy."

Let's focus on why KinSS is cool and not why it's less cool than its older brothers.

I'm wondering what Mythics you would take with it... and what weapon would be useful? I'm thinking that one crossbow you get from crusade mode... can't recall the name. Had something to do with base crit stuff. Does cleaving shot work with it? Deadly Aim? Ring of Destruction from the travelling sales skeleton? Probably want staples like Last Stand and Magic Nullification. You don't need to take Ascendant Element because you get the Rending shot. If trickster: Perception 2 trick to get the crit feat line, which is great cause you don't need to sink feats into Rapid Shot/Many Shot/Snap Shot.

If you plan it right you might be able to get Improved Improved Improved Critical Improved.

I'm also of the impression that kineticists can dip 1 level in something else and still get full blast damage. I have the urge to dip. It will not be denied!

[Dave]

Thats anothe rproblem with the class

The main Kineticist Mythic power doesn't work cos of no gather power.

No idea about cleaving shot

At the moment the ONLY Mythic ability i would take is Kitsune + master Shapeshifter and Ascendant Element fire
So 2 maybe 3 Mythic abilities out of 10. Can't think of anything else useful for this