Mounted Spear Charge does not increase damage anymore

[Wall]

Title. Spirited charge still works for 2X damage with any weapon but spear is not doing what it should. Was it removed in the latest patch?

[Bystander36]

Spirited charge does nothing special when wielding a spear. There are Cavalier skills at level 20 that add an additional x1 damage for using a spear, but not all the subclasses get the same bonus.

[Wall]

Spirited charge specifically used to deal 3X damage when combined with a spear in the previous patch.

[Bystander36]

Supreme Charge (level 20 ability) of the base Cavalier class gets the spear bonus.
These subclasses do not:
Discipline of the pike
Gendarme
Standard Flagbearer

Are you playing a level 20 Cavalier, that is not one of the 3 subclasses mentioned?

[Bystander36]

Originally posted by Wall:

Spirited charge specifically used to deal 3X damage when combined with a spear in the previous patch.

If it did, it was not written in the description of Spirited Charge. It was probably a bug. But as someone who was playing a Cavalier main character prior to the patch, I never noticed a bonus for using a spear. That said, I don't know for certain I tried it out before level 20 as it is not written in the description of Spirited Charge.

[Wall]

1. Mounted charge with spears deals x2 damage.

2. Mounted charge with spirited charge deals 2x damage.

3.!Mounted charge with spears and spirited charge deal 3X damage. Or at least it was supposed to.

This was introduced one year ago. It was like that for a long time. I am just asking if the current behaviour is bugged or if they removed that feature…

[Bystander36]

Originally posted by Wall:

1. Mounted charge with spears deals x2 damage.

2. Mounted charge with spirited charge deals 2x damage.

3.!Mounted charge with spears and spirited charge deal 3X damage. Or at least it was supposed to.

This was introduced one year ago. It was like that for a long time. I am just asking if the current behaviour is bugged or if they removed that feature…

Given the descriptions of the abilities, I'm pretty certain it was a bug when it was "introduced" a year ago.

[Wall]

You can be pretty certain but you are still wrong. It was not a bug, it was intended behavior.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1184370/eventcomments/3790380404160258748/?l=hungarian&ctp=2

>All characters, while mounted, now deal double damage on the first attack when charging with spears. This damage triples with Spirited Charge and quadruples with cavalier's Supreme Charge feat;

[Bystander36]

Did charge attacks without spirited charge, increase damage when using a spear? I could see how the description of Supreme Charge might have insinuated that possibility. I doubt it was tied to spirited charge, or you'd think it would have existed in the description.

[Bystander36]

Originally posted by Wall:

You can be pretty certain but you are still wrong. It was not a bug, it was intended behavior.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1184370/eventcomments/3790380404160258748/?l=hungarian&ctp=2

>All characters, while mounted, now deal double damage on the first attack when charging with spears. This damage triples with Spirited Charge and quadruples with cavalier's Supreme Charge feat;

That makes sense. I didn't think Spirited Charge had anything to do with it. It was a general spear thing.

[Stugg]

(while mounted) x3 dmg on a charge with spears was supposed to represent the lances x3 damage on charge. This was in some patch notes a while ago when they were fixing up the mounted combat.

It was never put into the tooltips. But... that does not mean much, as they JUST fixed the tooltips for animal companions. Could very well be that some new guy deleted that code thinking it was a mistake.

[Wither]

It is bugged.

I got bot x2 and x3 from the same game session, same fight. Not sure what trigger what.

That and the on going bug which lead blade don't stack with enlarge person on some weapon, like great axe.