Why magical Vest/shield not adding to my ac?

[swordfish]

I cast vest on character with armor and working or is it has to be cast on non magical armor?

[MOK]

Non-magical, I think.

You can read or hear bits that claim that these are great buffs that stack onto your existing AC, but I think that's outdated. I think the stacking of magic armor AC bonus was removed.
Was a serious letdown when I started multiclassing a character to get these spells, to find out it did nothing.

[forkofspite]

It provides an enhancement bonus based on the caster level (caps at +5 at caster level 20). This enhancement bonus does not stack with whatever enhancement bonus the armor already has.

So, if a caster level 8 magic vestment (provides a +2 enhancement bonus) is case on +1 full plate, the armor is temporarily +2 full plate, so the AC would only be one higher.

[Raikon]

Pretty sure there is no cap on the spell.

It may have been changed so that it doesnt stack with an enhancement bonus, it should still go up to +7 with a lich or angel. Maybe even +8 with the caster cape.

[kodama]

It doesn't stack with item's enhancement bonus anymore. So, for example, to see its effects on armor +3, whoever casts it, needs to be at least on caster level 16 (when it adds +4 and overrides item's enchantment). Same for Greater Magic Weapon.

[forkofspite]

Publicado originalmente por Raikon:

Pretty sure there is no cap on the spell.

Per the in-game description:

You imbue a suit of armor or shield with an enhancement bonus of +1 per four caster levels (maximum +5 at 20th level).

However, this game isn't exactly known for accurate in-game descriptions, so I tested via the default Cleric/Angel in Inevitable Excess. Confirmed that scale mail only had a +5 enhancement bonus after the CL 30 magic vestment.

[Raikon]

Ah shame. It used to give +14 via shield and armor. Now it's not even past 5. What a waste of a spell.

[hilburnashua]

Publicado originalmente por Raikon:

Ah shame. It used to give +14 via shield and armor. Now it's not even past 5. What a waste of a spell.

It's (and greater magic weapon ) are far more useful in tabletop where the characters don't have access to anywhere near as much cash as exists in this (and Kingmaker) game.

[Gracey Face]

Publicado originalmente por hilburnashua:

Publicado originalmente por Raikon:

Ah shame. It used to give +14 via shield and armor. Now it's not even past 5. What a waste of a spell.

It's (and greater magic weapon ) are far more useful in tabletop where the characters don't have access to anywhere near as much cash as exists in this (and Kingmaker) game.

Adding to this is that its main utility in the late game is to allow any older relic weapons your DM gave you that had interesting effects but low enhancement to still be competitive late game. You can also when you're doing one of the stereotypical "evil monster/s attacking the town" give important NPCs the magic weapon and magic vestments spells so they're less likely to die.

[fox5s]

Publicado originalmente por forkofspite:

It provides an enhancement bonus based on the caster level (caps at +5 at caster level 20). This enhancement bonus does not stack with whatever enhancement bonus the armor already has.

So, if a caster level 8 magic vestment (provides a +2 enhancement bonus) is case on +1 full plate, the armor is temporarily +2 full plate, so the AC would only be one higher.

This is the answer. It used to stack but they fixed it. We all knew they'd fix it eventually. However, you may see a lot of older guides talk about it from before they fix happened.