Finesse weapon with reach

[Sichimus]

Are there any weapons that are both finesse and reach? Or any circumstance to give dex to hit and dex to damage on a reach weapon? I really would like to give the rogue a weapon like this so he stops getting blown up in one round whenever enemies decide to not attack the tank

[hilburnashua]

No. Best you could do is take lunge feat.

[D-Black Catto]

rogues can be good on the defensive, what's with dex bonus to ac, and their traits that prevent them from being flanked and flat footed. that being said, a little bit of prebuffing, even with basic spells like blur can do wonders!

wouldn't call them tanks tho, this game doesn't favor tanking mindset

[Raikon]

My rogue had no issue tanking all of grey garrison. I just had cammy use protecctive luck
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198141673866/screenshot/2037363577401818428/

wow screenshots no longer appear in steam?

[dszombiex]

This isn't exactly what you're looking for but I suppose it's worth mentioning that enough levels in Fighter can get Fighter's Finesse which allows Weapon Finesse to work for any weapon group you have Weapon Training with.

[TaKo]

implemented in game i think fighters finesse is the only way to get finesse with reach weapons.. unless you also count size increases, those also increase weapon reach, so use that with normal finesse weapons

i think TTT adds bladed brush(lets finesse work on glaives and glaives only)

TTT also adds lunge feat(+5 feet of weapon reach but -2AC penalty, is a toggle) and long arm level 1 spell(+5feet of weapon reach, stacks with lunge and reach weapons, personal only by default tho)

these are official feats/spell

[Sichimus]

Dang so it's mods or take last stand on all characters, I guess it's not a bad thing to do anyway

[D-Black Catto]

Originally posted by Sichimus:

Dang so it's mods or take last stand on all characters, I guess it's not a bad thing to do anyway

or just utilize buffs properly? what is displacement, what is mirror image? What is stoneskin?

[Sichimus]

Originally posted by D-Black Catto:

Originally posted by Sichimus:

Dang so it's mods or take last stand on all characters, I guess it's not a bad thing to do anyway

or just utilize buffs properly? what is displacement, what is mirror image? What is stoneskin?

I have been stacking mirror image and displacement and my rogue just keeps eating 20's anyways, it's just inevitable against enemies that get multiple attacks

[Sichimus]

Originally posted by D-Black Catto:

Originally posted by Sichimus:

Dang so it's mods or take last stand on all characters, I guess it's not a bad thing to do anyway

or just utilize buffs properly? what is displacement, what is mirror image? What is stoneskin?

I prebuff mage armor, shield, mirror image, displacement, haste, cats grace, shield of faith on Woljif and he still dies in one round to plagued smilodons 😭

[Raikon]

Hexes are pretty powerful. A protective luck, and buffed rogue, isn't going to have issues avoiding damage.

[Raikon]

Still, rogues have an absurd amount of feats. Like it was suggested, just take lunge.

[Raikon]

Or you could just go vivisectionist. It's basically rogue adjacent, but more survival le/powerful.

[Jiroa]

Originally posted by Raikon:

Or you could just go vivisectionist. It's basically rogue adjacent, but more survival le/powerful.

Yea, Azata Vivi can easy get 80-100 AC while dual wielding and getting a free bite attack. The second you get to chapter 4 you become almost untouchable AC wise.

[Deo]

I heard Trickster's Arcana 2-3 can spawn Agile enhancement on weapons. Not sure it can be spawned on melee weapons tho, maybe someone will test it out.
As to the "rogue focused" problem - AI in game always will try to attack weakest AC party members after some time. First enemy will focus your tank, then after few rounds he will run at backline, not caring about AoOs and stuff.
So you either buff your rogue with Displacement and Blur to make him hard to hit (dispelling True Seeing which every other enemy has after act 2 is useful) or you use CC on enemies. Selective Web, Selective Grease, Persistent Phantasmal Web, Phantasmal Putrefaction, Selective Sirocco etc.
Also on higher difficulties (Unfair) dedicated abyssal sorc summoner will provide great distraction. AI most of the times gladly will focus those poor dogs\wolves\monitor lizards who after dying will transform into spiders via Clemency of Shadows ring. And if you take 1 level of Loremaster at 14 and pick Creeping Doom - enemies will face TRUE terror. This spell is busted with abyssal bloodline and capable of killing hardest enemies on it's own.

[THAC0]

Originally posted by Jiroa:

Originally posted by Raikon:

Or you could just go vivisectionist. It's basically rogue adjacent, but more survival le/powerful.

Yea, Azata Vivi can easy get 80-100 AC while dual wielding and getting a free bite attack. The second you get to chapter 4 you become almost untouchable AC wise.

heck its been shown a Tower Shield Spec with Aoen can easy get massively higher with super immunitys but thats just pure tank ♥♥♥♥♥

I think Slayer is something the OP might wanna look at
not as much Sneak Attack but Better BaB + ways to be OP via abuse strength Base Duel wield or some such is under-value.