Monies in act 3

[Ignis Imperia]

Hey,

I've been wondering for a while now, everytime I look up how some system works and so because the ingame presentation seems a bit overwhelming, I noticed a trend, where for instance at start of act 3 I see a person investing heavily into the resources, which in and of itself I can understand, but here's the thing that confuses me, that person generally at this point, just starting act 3, has about 1M+ gold, sometimes even close to 3M, so I've been wondering if I'm doing something seriously wrong since I basically entered act 3 with 120k a lot of which I invested into getting some decent gear for new companion and into resources, but I definitely never felt like I even near 1M overall earnings.

Is there some moneymaking method I've been missing out on that is common to use and I'll be behind because of it?

[Corrupted Monk]

Hi the man probably just use toy box and give himself a lot of money, there no way to do money expept by looting and selling all the crap u can get, by the end of act 3 beginning of act 4 u will be rich

[Sophis]

If they have like 1M+ at the start of the act, they're probably using mods (toybox) to cheat some gold, there's absolutely no way of having that naturally at that point. Other than that, there's the Midnight Isles DLC, the quest for it can be started in act 3, and it gives huges amounts of money and exp quite early.

If you're not doing any of that, just running every possible side quest (including Ulbrig's quest, there's a lot of gear there) and selling magic items can get you enough for crusade and upgrades through the game.

[Vertigo]

It also depends on difficulty. I found myself having much less money the first time I went into the chapter on Core. I had to buy a few diamonds as I was learning to strategize better.

It also helps to not hoard any named items and sell all you can (unless you have a merc/party member that's going to use them). I have been guilty of having a cache of things I never ended up selling.

[kotor_fan]

Honestly, if you're not entering act 3 broke, you're just hampering yourself.

Lots of decent/good items to buy in first 2 acts.
0 reasons to save money. Drezen assault will net you few hundred thousand if you pick everything and sell it to Wilcer Garm (he's always in army camp during assault)

Once you enter act 3 with some money (definitely nowhere close to 1M),spend it all straight away on good items.
Some great items available at jeweler and merchant next to him.

Act 3 will make you rich. Act 4 will make you wonder what to do with money. At Act 5 you'll wonder why people say certain dungeon giving 2M is such an amazing thing is when you've already got few million and nothing to spend it on.

Whole point of this long ass post? Don't worry about money.

[jonnin]

too much of the early game good loot is bought, and too much of what you find is junk like roll 20 to crit, on crit does 1-2 extra damage... between that and stocking up on mercs right out of the intro, I have no money until act 3 end!

[Ignis Imperia]

I have now accidentally entered Midnight Isles and given the sheer amount of +1, +2, +3 stuff that drops there, I think my financial woes are over. :D Thought I do struggle with that zone's affixes, for instance the one where casters have to roll a will save everytime they cast is pure pain...

[kotor_fan]

Originally posted by Ignis Imperia:

I have now accidentally entered Midnight Isles and given the sheer amount of +1, +2, +3 stuff that drops there, I think my financial woes are over. :D Thought I do struggle with that zone's affixes, for instance the one where casters have to roll a will save everytime they cast is pure pain...

Yeah, Midnight Isles breaks money economy for whole gameplay.
As in, you'll have basically infinite money after doing it.

Yet another reason why I disabled that DLC (though my primary reason is I don't like rogue-likes so it's my preference, nothing to do with DLC quality).

[Ignis Imperia]

Originally posted by kotor_fan:

Originally posted by Ignis Imperia:

I have now accidentally entered Midnight Isles and given the sheer amount of +1, +2, +3 stuff that drops there, I think my financial woes are over. :D Thought I do struggle with that zone's affixes, for instance the one where casters have to roll a will save everytime they cast is pure pain...

Yeah, Midnight Isles breaks money economy for whole gameplay.
As in, you'll have basically infinite money after doing it.

Yet another reason why I disabled that DLC (though my primary reason is I don't like rogue-likes so it's my preference, nothing to do with DLC quality).

I so far kinda liked it but I do not like some of the affixes personally, and I wish it focused a bit more on story rather than just testing how quickly I can grind each room to dust.

I am still new to the game despite being about 120 hours in and I love about every bit of content I find, but for instance the Midnight Isles somewhat complicates things for me, because it means I take my eyes off campaign map for a while (which resulted when I came out afte 3 isles due to corruption in me having to deal with 2 attacking demon armies at once) and I also feel like there's severe disconnect between the loot, the enemy levels and the boss levels in the isles.

For instance I am mostly finding really cool unique items but they're +1 or +2 while at this stage of game I should mostly be finding +3s, and the more jarring thing for me honestly is the bosses, as I go through the isles, I have yet to see an enemy that is below level 13, mostly they're 13-19, but then comes the boss and it's.. lv10? Legit, the bossfights are so far the easiest part of the isles. I often have to resort to chokepoint abuse when there are rooms with difficult to reach champion archers from the get-go, but bosses I just don't even really do much myself and let the AI sort them out, only thing I do is micro Arue to shoot down their mages from afar as they in a moment of ingenuity cast greater invisibility just as I buff us all with see invisibility.

[jonnin]

midnight isles is more of a stand alone power trip, to test builds and take a break from questing, crusading, etc to just go hit something. Integrating it into the game was a mistake, as it adds not only tons of money but gear that is not normally available, some of it exceedingly powerful. You won't need money after doing it, because there won't be much left to buy.

I liked the kingmaker bashing dungeon better, its longer and had better maps. MI is really short, you get to the boss and its over very quickly.

[Razer]

Originally posted by kotor_fan:

Honestly, if you're not entering act 3 broke, you're just hampering yourself.

Lots of decent/good items to buy in first 2 acts.
0 reasons to save money. Drezen assault will net you few hundred thousand if you pick everything and sell it to Wilcer Garm (he's always in army camp during assault)

Once you enter act 3 with some money (definitely nowhere close to 1M),spend it all straight away on good items.
Some great items available at jeweler and merchant next to him.

Act 3 will make you rich. Act 4 will make you wonder what to do with money. At Act 5 you'll wonder why people say certain dungeon giving 2M is such an amazing thing is when you've already got few million and nothing to spend it on.

Whole point of this long ass post? Don't worry about money.

Some of the best items you buy at the start of Act 3 in the city for both melee and spellcasters alike. So I would disagree with going into act 3 broke.

[Ignis Imperia]

Originally posted by Razer:

Originally posted by kotor_fan:

Honestly, if you're not entering act 3 broke, you're just hampering yourself.

Lots of decent/good items to buy in first 2 acts.
0 reasons to save money. Drezen assault will net you few hundred thousand if you pick everything and sell it to Wilcer Garm (he's always in army camp during assault)

Once you enter act 3 with some money (definitely nowhere close to 1M),spend it all straight away on good items.
Some great items available at jeweler and merchant next to him.

Act 3 will make you rich. Act 4 will make you wonder what to do with money. At Act 5 you'll wonder why people say certain dungeon giving 2M is such an amazing thing is when you've already got few million and nothing to spend it on.

Whole point of this long ass post? Don't worry about money.

Some of the best items you buy at the start of Act 3 in the city for both melee and spellcasters alike. So I would disagree with going into act 3 broke.

I think kotor meant to spend all the monies you get in act 2 on good gear and the like while there and then buying the cool stuff in act 3 with the monies the actual battle of Drezen will earn you, which is from my run in ballpark of about 100k, if you do the Ulbrig's quest after that, you can quite easily amass another 100k and with that you can already do quite a bit.

[kotor_fan]

Originally posted by Ignis Imperia:

Originally posted by Razer:

Some of the best items you buy at the start of Act 3 in the city for both melee and spellcasters alike. So I would disagree with going into act 3 broke.

I think kotor meant to spend all the monies you get in act 2 on good gear and the like while there and then buying the cool stuff in act 3 with the monies the actual battle of Drezen will earn you, which is from my run in ballpark of about 100k, if you do the Ulbrig's quest after that, you can quite easily amass another 100k and with that you can already do quite a bit.

Bingo.
If you enter Drezen assault completely broke (probably won't), you can net around 100k for items, then give Irabeth her sword you find for 50k and clear out Tavern for 25k more.

That puts you at around 150-175k minimum.
For that money, you can grab quite a few amazing items right off the bat in Act 3.

My personal favorites are boots with greater heroism, gloves of dueling and gloves that give +3 attack/dmg while polymorphed (Ulbrig or Arue rock even harder with those). Those 3 together are around 100k.
The rest depends on what party I'm bringing, or if I'm scribbing scrolls (42k for lvl 7 thingy).

Dispel glasses? Not a must for first adventure from Drezen, and anywhere you go, you're certain to net way more than what they cost on return.

EDIT: One thing I absolutely love about WotR is that items you see on your first merchant entry to chapter are 95% of the time only items you'll see for sale that chapter.
So there's no worry to save money for something else, or you might be forced to spend it on something and you can't. You've seen everything on offer straight off the bat (certain world merchant aside), buy what you want, save for what else you liked and enjoy.

[Ignis Imperia]

Originally posted by kotor_fan:

Originally posted by Ignis Imperia:

I think kotor meant to spend all the monies you get in act 2 on good gear and the like while there and then buying the cool stuff in act 3 with the monies the actual battle of Drezen will earn you, which is from my run in ballpark of about 100k, if you do the Ulbrig's quest after that, you can quite easily amass another 100k and with that you can already do quite a bit.

Bingo.
If you enter Drezen assault completely broke (probably won't), you can net around 100k for items, then give Irabeth her sword you find for 50k and clear out Tavern for 25k more.

That puts you at around 150-175k minimum.
For that money, you can grab quite a few amazing items right off the bat in Act 3.

My personal favorites are boots with greater heroism, gloves of dueling and gloves that give +3 attack/dmg while polymorphed (Ulbrig or Arue rock even harder with those). Those 3 together are around 100k.
The rest depends on what party I'm bringing, or if I'm scribbing scrolls (42k for lvl 7 thingy).

Dispel glasses? Not a must for first adventure from Drezen, and anywhere you go, you're certain to net way more than what they cost on return.

Sad to say I did not get Solemn Hour during Drezen assault, somehow missed it :c If it's in a locked chest, might be the one that got its lock jammed on my run unfortunately.

[Gold Dragon]

No, Solemn Hour is lying on the Floor near the Furnace.

[Ignis Imperia]

Originally posted by Gold Dragon:

No, Solemn Hour is lying on the Floor near the Furnace.

Seems I was just blind then =/ Oh well, better luck next time... Or I was an idiot enough to sell it.