does wotr have the same charisma problem as kingmaker?

[Lunduke is the Trump of tech]

In kingmaker you had to specialize in pursuation on your main character because there were plenty of pursuasion checks which only used your main character, so having a companion specialized in pursuason was useless.

[Soul]

your party members are used for skill checks.... like lockpicking when your not assembled in a party is done by highest of your companions... same with skill checks like with Forn in defefenders heart.... you can hover over the skill check to see which character is gonna take the role to pass it beforehand...

[ZZZZZ]

to make it short: no, ur main character doesnt need to skill it

[Cyrus]

No, but you're essentially forced to focus on intellect, religion, nature, persception and afew more with the Mc, 3 of which are mandatory for the true ending.

[Cutlass Jack]

Even without considering conversation, its not useless to have a companion learn persuasion. Its used in combat for intimidate checks, which was also true in kingmaker.

[Nismu]

Mostly you can use your companions skills , there are few times you have to use your own skills though not sure if persuasion had any important ones and thanks to backgrounds i am pretty sure there is one that lets you use wisdom for persuasion to help bit.

[Chan]

Publicado originalmente por Cyrus:

No, but you're essentially forced to focus on intellect, religion, nature, persception and afew more with the Mc, 3 of which are mandatory for the true ending.

Not at all true. Your character can be 100% useless skill-wise and still get the hidden ending.

[Gustuv Wynd]

I typically keep my main character as the front man of the party, but I also take that back ground that lets you use Wisdom for persuasion checks and dump charisma. Acolyte I think it is called. That is unless I am going for a build that actively uses charisma of course, but I typically just build my MC with wisdom in mind which at the minimum will help my will saves.

I believe all I loose out on is use magic device which I MIGHT put on one character unless I have nothing better to use the skill points on. I am more of a potion user and buff with other characters in my play style I guess.

[RedwoodElf]

Publicado originalmente por Cyrus:

No, but you're essentially forced to focus on intellect, religion, nature, persception and afew more with the Mc, 3 of which are mandatory for the true ending.

Well, not if you collect all of the Storyteller pages...that makes the lore checks autopass if I recall correctly.

[Icedfate]

there's a background that lets you use wisdom for persuasion checks?!

[Cutlass Jack]

Publicado originalmente por Icedfate:

there's a background that lets you use wisdom for persuasion checks?!

Acolyte.

[Lunduke is the Trump of tech]

it doesnt make sense how will can be used instead of charisma. Why dont they make more backgrounds like that in that case so we can have intelligence instead of charisma for pursuasion? Or strength? or constitution?

[Cutlass Jack]

Publicado originalmente por Pan Darius Kairos:

it doesnt make sense how will can be used instead of charisma. Why dont they make more backgrounds like that in that case so we can have intelligence instead of charisma for pursuasion? Or strength? or constitution?

Its Wisdom, not will. Persuading people with the wisdom of your arguements rather than your personality essentially. One of the other backgrounds substitutes intelligence for wisdom on lore skills. And there are already a few classes that feature other stat substitutions.

[Lunduke is the Trump of tech]

Publicado originalmente por Cutlass Jack:

Publicado originalmente por Pan Darius Kairos:

it doesnt make sense how will can be used instead of charisma. Why dont they make more backgrounds like that in that case so we can have intelligence instead of charisma for pursuasion? Or strength? or constitution?

Its Wisdom, not will. Persuading people with the wisdom of your arguements rather than your personality essentially. One of the other backgrounds substitutes intelligence for wisdom on lore skills. And there are already a few classes that feature other stat substitutions.

but what about pursuading them with the intelligence of your arguments?
Or what about pursuading them with how strong and physically superior you are?

[Gustuv Wynd]

Publicado originalmente por Icedfate:

there's a background that lets you use wisdom for persuasion checks?!

yep, I use it on pretty much every character. Lets me drop charisma down to the minimum and the character doesn't really loose anything, as far as I can tell, provided they don't use CHA for some other purpose. It gives the +3 class skill bonus to persuasion as well.

[Gustuv Wynd]

Publicado originalmente por Pan Darius Kairos:

it doesnt make sense how will can be used instead of charisma. Why dont they make more backgrounds like that in that case so we can have intelligence instead of charisma for pursuasion? Or strength? or constitution?

There is a feat that lets you use strength for persuasion...the description makes it sound like it only works on intimidate checks, but it appears to work on all persuasion checks.