Blue flame kineticist

[nevma]

I made Wenduag into fire+fire kineticist to have someone who can reliably attack touch AC. And she does the job, I guess, but like...

I gave her the full spell pen line, including mythic, but she still misses 5% oh her shots because of nat 1's. And because she can only do 1 shot per round (at level 9), that means that the entire round is scratched. Same with concealment - bad weather? 20% of your rounds are scratched on top of the 5 from SR.

Blue flame itself is a bad deal so far because of how expensive it is. You have to skip a round channeling, if you want to use it more than thrice a day. So with bad luck from SR+concealment, you could now be wasting 50% of your rounds. That's just unworkable imo.

And then, I see no obvious feats to help fix these issues. I took point blank and the other one for shooting into mele, all spell pens, will of course take ascendant element fire next mythic level up. But what else works with fire blasts? Does sorcerous reflex?

I'm playing on core, so I don't want to switch to material (or whatever they are called) blasts - i need her help killing bosses, not trash mobs, so I need her targeting touch AC. Plus I can't respect on core anyway.

Any suggestions?

[hilburnashua]

Well, I think spell penetration works for kineticist blasts since it can be resisted by spell resistance. Pretty sure it did in Kingmaker.

You need the quicken infusion but that doesn't unlock until level 13 to get multiple blasts. Sorry, as a standard action not much to do there. Metamagic rods and feats don't work.

I am guessing your problem with having to gather power as a full round action is because your burn is already capped using gather power as a move action? There are points at which the amount of burn you take is reduced and you might be at an awkward point where you can combine the blasts but the burn you take is just too much to sustain until you get that reduced burn ability. Might try just holding back a bit of burn for what looks like tougher fights.

Toughness should help by upping your max hp. Same goes for mythic toughness which is about the only time I think that ability might be worth taking.

[nevma]

Thank you for your help! Hopefully it's just a bad spot for the build and it will rally from here.

[Conquista]

there is a mythic feat called always a chance that removes the auto fail on nat 1 for attacks

[mbradtke]

you can always just click on the enemy target again as soon as the channel energy animation has started and the blast will go off anyways, as long as the turn is up, no need to channel energy longer than 3 secs or at all, it works like this in kingmaker, doubt they fixed it here, it is cheap but that is how it works

[wizard1200]

Blind Fight helps you against the miss chance from concealment, because it allows you to roll twice and take the better result. Kinetic Overcharge helps you to reduce the burn by an additional point if you use channel energy.

[nevma]

Isn't blind fight just for mele?

[Drake]

Yeah blind fight only cancels concealment from melee. For distance you need blindsight (usually through echolocation spell).

[hilburnashua]

Ug, I forgot how confusing the elements and how they combine are for Kineticists. I was thinking that Elemental Barrage was custom made for Kineticists but all their blasts are either energy+physical or fire+fire so that ability doesn't do anything for them. Maybe something in one of the mythic paths would make them do something crazy. I don't see anything in angel or aeon. Legend would be pretty interesting if you did 20 kineticist/20 alchemist and used your mutagen to buff up your Con (assuming standard kineticist). Use Transform extract to give yourself a BAB of 40 base and use your bombs when you don't want/need to take burn. Start with an 18 con and keep pumping all your stat points into it by lvl 40 you should have a 42+ Con. That is a lot of burn.