Enhanced edition - what will be "enhanced"

[duane]

I cant find what exactly "enhanced" actually refers to. As a new player its pretty damn good now. Any insight?

[Schlumpsha]

There has been some guesswork from players going about this. Chances are we can expect similar things to Kingmaker's EE update. But nothing akin to an official list of changes for the EE exists at this time. Pretty much the only feature which was revealed by devs is the inclusion of a photomode.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Schlumpsha:

There has been some guesswork from players going about this. Chances are we can expect similar things to Kingmaker's EE update. But nothing akin to an official list of changes for the EE exists at this time. Pretty much the only feature which was revealed by devs is the inclusion of a photomode.

And for those of us who didn't play any Pathfinder games until now, what happened with Kingmaker's EE?

[Schlumpsha]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Schlumpsha:

There has been some guesswork from players going about this. Chances are we can expect similar things to Kingmaker's EE update. But nothing akin to an official list of changes for the EE exists at this time. Pretty much the only feature which was revealed by devs is the inclusion of a photomode.

And for those of us who didn't play any Pathfinder games until now, what happened with Kingmaker's EE?

In a nutshell it brought a slew of fixes, QoL changes, new items sold by merchants, new areas, new types of monsters (like oozes and cute bulky frogmen), gamepad support, as well as official TB combat as an alternative to RtwP. Latter already is in WotR. And gamepad support will get in either way because of upcoming console releases.

[RIOT|Stalkermaster]

It was mentioned somewhere that some of the Mythic paths would be getting new content. Most likely the ones which didnt get much in chapter 5

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Schlumpsha:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

And for those of us who didn't play any Pathfinder games until now, what happened with Kingmaker's EE?

In a nutshell it brought a slew of fixes, QoL changes, new items sold by merchants, new areas, new types of monsters (like oozes and cute bulky frogmen), gamepad support, as well as official TB combat as an alternative to RtwP. Latter already is in WotR. And gamepad support will get in either way because of upcoming console releases.

Sounds cool. Thanks.

[Stromko]

I think it would be nice if the Enhanced Edition made kingdom and crusade management _actually_ optional.

If you want the full experience of the game right now you have to do them yourself or you will miss out on bits of story, and also a lot of special items and treasure. It's true that they made it possible to just change the crusade difficulty, so it's not actually difficult to finish these parts and get all those things, but the sheer tediousness of managing settlements and armies still remains and even just going to these screens I can feel the inertia to keep playing being sucked out of me.

I mean I guess they could also just try to improve the army battles so they're interesting. Like put back in Attacks of Opportunity of some sort so that the only viable formation isn't just a cage of troops around your archers (because the overwhelming enemy stategy is 'charge the archers'). Maybe make it so magical attacks from your general aren't the MVP in every battle, and that non-spellcasting generals aren't objectively the worst choice as a result. Probably refactor how the entire mass combat system and all the unit stats work so every fight isn't absurd. Perhaps do something so all the random tiny stacks of units you get from events aren't completely worthless because they'll just do no damage and die in one hit. ... I could go on for hours.

Probably the only way is to just let us actually skip it with no regrets, because fixing the army battle system would be a Herculean task. If it were up to me I'd say just remove it, remove settlement management also because it adds nothing to the game, but I'm sure it has some fans so they'll have to keep it in so as not to upset people needlessly.