Companion skills on trip to Colyphyr mines

[Tsubutai]

During the storybook event when you take the ship from Alushinyrra to the confrontation with Baphomet, why is it that you can use party members' skills to pass some of the checks but can only use the MC's skills for others? It's quite annoying to be forced into a bad outcome because of this arbitrariness.

[The_Hero_Number_0]

For the same reason you can only use the MC's skills for any of the Skill Checks with the Lexicon of Paradox: Owlcat decided it'd be a "good" idea (Surprise, it isn't a good idea, most MCs won't be built for the Lore and Knowledge checks of stuff like the Lexicon, unless they're hyper metagaming)

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It might be an oversight, considering the option for normal is per default to use the highest skill value among the party members.

[Herr Glaube]

Originally posted by The_Hero_Number_0:

For the same reason you can only use the MC's skills for any of the Skill Checks with the Lexicon of Paradox: Owlcat decided it'd be a "good" idea (Surprise, it isn't a good idea, most MCs won't be built for the Lore and Knowledge checks of stuff like the Lexicon, unless they're hyper metagaming)

Some classes aren't even suited for it... personally, i'd just hand it over to Nenio. Though it might be hard to get it back before she starts testing its flammability...

[The_Hero_Number_0]

Originally posted by Herr Glaube:

Originally posted by The_Hero_Number_0:

For the same reason you can only use the MC's skills for any of the Skill Checks with the Lexicon of Paradox: Owlcat decided it'd be a "good" idea (Surprise, it isn't a good idea, most MCs won't be built for the Lore and Knowledge checks of stuff like the Lexicon, unless they're hyper metagaming)

Some classes aren't even suited for it... personally, i'd just hand it over to Nenio. Though it might be hard to get it back before she starts testing its flammability...

If I could have her do the skill checks by opening the Lexicon while on her Inventory, I'd gladly do so, as Nenio is the divine arbiter of Lore/Knowledge Checks (and Use Magic Device as a secondary field of study). My current playthrough's Bloodrager17 Arcane Bloodline Steelblood Azata, meanwhile, is nimble (High Mobility and Athletics) and Persuasive (because in CRPGs I always like to build my MC to be highly Persuasive even if I can use companions for the Persuade checks (Aru mostly covers them for me, as she has nearly 20 more total Skill Value than me in Persuasion.)), but dumb as a rock when it comes to the Knowledge and Lore skills, and especially garbage when it comes to Stealth and Trickery (Makes no sense from an RP perspective to put more than 1 rank each in Stealth and Trickery (for the sake of actually having them count as Trained, just in case I'm forced to do lockpicking or stealthing using my MC instead of the various party members that are better suited to those things) as a Bloodrager (a class that basically amounts to "Barbarian, but magic spells").

Honestly, as long as Nenio were to narrate what she was reading from her successful Knowledge/Lore Skill checks on the Lexicon, I don't care if she'd try burning it afterwards for the sake of science. I just want the ability to use Ms. Forgetful McKnowledgeFox for the damned book of Knowledge/Lore checks.

[Bhaal]

Originally posted by The_Hero_Number_0:

For the same reason you can only use the MC's skills for any of the Skill Checks with the Lexicon of Paradox: Owlcat decided it'd be a "good" idea (Surprise, it isn't a good idea, most MCs won't be built for the Lore and Knowledge checks of stuff like the Lexicon, unless they're hyper metagaming)

Dunno, situation with Lexicon seems reasonable to me. You can treat passing all 4 skill checks as a shortcut. General approach is with collecting Storyteller notes, which is available to every MC with any build.

[The_Hero_Number_0]

Originally posted by Bhaal:

Originally posted by The_Hero_Number_0:

For the same reason you can only use the MC's skills for any of the Skill Checks with the Lexicon of Paradox: Owlcat decided it'd be a "good" idea (Surprise, it isn't a good idea, most MCs won't be built for the Lore and Knowledge checks of stuff like the Lexicon, unless they're hyper metagaming)

Dunno, situation with Lexicon seems reasonable to me. You can treat passing all 4 skill checks as a shortcut. General approach is with collecting Storyteller notes, which is available to every MC with any build.

Sure, but passed Skill Checks=free XP, on top of the XP from completing the quest to get all of the Storyteller's notes.