Arushalae dip into eldritch archer? or Rowdy Rogue or stay 20 levels of EE?

[Nazkai]

As in the title I am trying to think of what might be an effective dip for a few levels for Rue (if anything) Note - I am playing on customized version of Normal with increased enemies and enemies can use extra powers and skills on.

Also I did not pick up Snap Shot or weapon focus longbow when I picked Her up at Level 8 and instead went with Improved Crit longbow first for expanded crit range as her accuracy seems pretty darn good with Mythic Rapid Shot turned on at this point. I may grab both of those later not sure how good Snap Shot really is on Rue or if Weapon Focus is really needed for just that +1 to hit?

From a pure rpg respective part of me wants to dip into EA for a couple of levels to make her a bit less ranger or Ekun from PFKM like and more Succubus or Magical Demon like.

Any ideas for good options are welcome.

I am already 10 now and Took improved Precise Shot and Demon of Strength 2 times there thinking that will be of good use with my Rangers bond and to hit later.

Thanks

[Denomar]

Sure, if you think it'd be fun. I would suggest getting to at least level 10 in ranger just to pick up Point Blank Master so you don't have to babysit what range she's sitting at all the time. It's easy to splash into anything because Arueshalae's statistics are so significant.

I like giving her levels in Bard or Skald.

[Conquista]

probably most boring but efficient dip would be vivi for her, you get a sneak dice and mutagen
if you want more levels than mutation warrior would give you weapon specialization and mutagen

no idea for a magical demon like build with only few dips

[Nazkai]

Would Eldritch archer or some Archer like inquisitor dips be wortwhile? EA gives an extra attack yeah? Is that worthwhile ? Would at least make her seem more "Mage" like

[Edstyles]

Sworn enemy seems too good to pass. She be going full ranger for me.
Though it is tempting to multiclass.
She is just to invested in ranger. Id much rather have her as freebooter. Lann can take that Job , but he is kinda nice as inquisitor too

[dwarner]

Originally posted by Nazkai:

As in the title I am trying to think of what might be an effective dip for a few levels for Rue (if anything) Note - I am playing on customized version of Normal with increased enemies and enemies can use extra powers and skills on.

Also I did not pick up Snap Shot or weapon focus longbow when I picked Her up at Level 8 and instead went with Improved Crit longbow first for expanded crit range as her accuracy seems pretty darn good with Mythic Rapid Shot turned on at this point. I may grab both of those later not sure how good Snap Shot really is on Rue or if Weapon Focus is really needed for just that +1 to hit?

From a pure rpg respective part of me wants to dip into EA for a couple of levels to make her a bit less ranger or Ekun from PFKM like and more Succubus or Magical Demon like.

Any ideas for good options are welcome.

I am already 10 now and Took improved Precise Shot and Demon of Strength 2 times there thinking that will be of good use with my Rangers bond and to hit later.

Thanks

:lunar2020thinkingtiger:

Stay 20. Consider doing some casting. She has high CHR.

[Edstyles]

If you absolutely need more support from her then i guess bard is a decent option with inspire . Kinda Suits her too, lore wise

[belangf]

I find Rowdy is an extremely powerful dip at early levels, but I don't think it would hold well for Aru, unless you go full Rowdy to give her lots of sneak attack dies. Rowdy vital strike is just a single attack and it would be a waste for a full BAB character with just 1 or 2 sneak attack dice. With full BAB and rapid shots + clustered shots you get a lot of attacks and damage per round. Rogues archers have lower attack bonus so it's a good trade-off to forgo the extra attacks in favor of a big damage boost.

[Conquista]

for eldritch archer you would need 2 level dips
and for inquisitor, sanctified slayer would get you study target, abit of low level divine magic and low level domain stuff
if you like that as flavour, than go for it, but i'm not sure if that is worth it

[Edstyles]

Originally posted by belangf:

I find Rowdy is an extremely powerful dip at early levels, but I don't think it would hold well for Aru, unless you go full Rowdy to give her lots of sneak attack dies. Rowdy vital strike is just a single attack and it would be a waste for a full BAB character with just 1 or 2 sneak attack dice. With full BAB and rapid shots + clustered shots you get a lot of attacks and damage per round.

Mhm yeah that could work. Id give another rogue subclass tho in order to get weapon finesse and 4 pts for bewild injury . This could work for sure.
With weapon finesse you can get weapon mythic finesse which adds damage from dexterity which is her highest stat

[jasta85]

On normal difficulty you can play around with builds all you want and it won't matter too much, and arushalae is so damn strong stat wise it's hard to mess her up. So do whatever you want.

That said, on core+ she's one of the few characters who can keep up with the insane enemy AC increases just by going to 20 with her current class. I've been hitting some demons on 2+ hit chances when I buff the hell out of her, and had her take out like 3-4 enemies in a single turn thanks to cleaving shot + sneak attack damage from sense vitals.

You got plenty of other magic user companions, let Aru be the bad ass archer destroyer she's already built as.

[Nazkai]

Originally posted by belangf:

I find Rowdy is an extremely powerful dip at early levels, but I don't think it would hold well for Aru, unless you go full Rowdy to give her lots of sneak attack dies. Rowdy vital strike is just a single attack and it would be a waste for a full BAB character with just 1 or 2 sneak attack dice. With full BAB and rapid shots + clustered shots you get a lot of attacks and damage per round. Rogues archers have lower attack bonus so it's a good trade-off to forgo the extra attacks in favor of a big damage boost.

Originally posted by Edstyles:

Originally posted by belangf:

I find Rowdy is an extremely powerful dip at early levels, but I don't think it would hold well for Aru, unless you go full Rowdy to give her lots of sneak attack dies. Rowdy vital strike is just a single attack and it would be a waste for a full BAB character with just 1 or 2 sneak attack dice. With full BAB and rapid shots + clustered shots you get a lot of attacks and damage per round.

Mhm yeah that could work. Id give another rogue subclass tho in order to get weapon finesse and 4 pts for bewild injury . This could work for sure.
With weapon finesse you can get weapon mythic finesse which adds damage from dexterity which is her highest stat

Would bewild injury work with Ranged though?

Also anyone have thoughts on if weapon focus LB and Snap shot are worth it or needed on Rue?

[Nazkai]

Originally posted by jasta85:

On normal difficulty you can play around with builds all you want and it won't matter too much, and arushalae is so damn strong stat wise it's hard to mess her up. So do whatever you want.

That said, on core+ she's one of the few characters who can keep up with the insane enemy AC increases just by going to 20 with her current class. I've been hitting some demons on 2+ hit chances when I buff the hell out of her, and had her take out like 3-4 enemies in a single turn thanks to cleaving shot + sneak attack damage from sense vitals.

You got plenty of other magic user companions, let Aru be the bad ass archer destroyer she's already built as.

I did take Cleaving Shots and sorta RP that her arrows "magically explode" sometimes I skipped this on Lann for RP reasons and took the one that after 3 hits does more damage after reveling a weakness instead which seemed more Monk and precision like.

[Edstyles]

Yes bewild injury works with ranged attacks as well

[Herr Glaube]

Originally posted by Nazkai:

I did take Cleaving Shots and sorta RP that her arrows "magically explode" sometimes I skipped this on Lann for RP reasons and took the one that after 3 hits does more damage after reveling a weakness instead which seemed more Monk and precision like.

It's a world where magic is real. That's a perfectly valid explanation for what is happening, as would be Lann using his monk training combined with the mythic boost he gets from you to make the arrows shatter.

I think there even are actual magic exploding arrows in PF.

[belangf]

Originally posted by Nazkai:

Originally posted by belangf:

I find Rowdy is an extremely powerful dip at early levels, but I don't think it would hold well for Aru, unless you go full Rowdy to give her lots of sneak attack dies. Rowdy vital strike is just a single attack and it would be a waste for a full BAB character with just 1 or 2 sneak attack dice. With full BAB and rapid shots + clustered shots you get a lot of attacks and damage per round. Rogues archers have lower attack bonus so it's a good trade-off to forgo the extra attacks in favor of a big damage boost.

Originally posted by Edstyles:

Mhm yeah that could work. Id give another rogue subclass tho in order to get weapon finesse and 4 pts for bewild injury . This could work for sure.
With weapon finesse you can get weapon mythic finesse which adds damage from dexterity which is her highest stat

Would bewild injury work with Ranged though?

Also anyone have thoughts on if weapon focus LB and Snap shot are worth it or needed on Rue?

Weapon finesse and finesse training do not work with bows, only melee weapon (at least it's supposed to be like that). I think LB focus and mythic focus are good to get. Your main attacks will hit most of the time even without focus, but it improves the odds for your second and third attacks.