Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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Oscar Chan Aug 14, 2023 @ 4:18am
*Spoiler Warning* Do Anevia and Camellia cover up for each other or what?
I am on my 2nd playthrough of the game and currently having a blast as an Azata Mage, I just cleanse everything with flames of freedom (+ chain lightning with fire damage), but that's not the point.

During act 3 Anevia tells you that something is happening in the abandoned house, which is suspiciously precise that she knows the exact location, yet refuses to elaborate more. Considering that she is a scout, she should have no problem knowing what's inside, sneaking out, and tell me what's going on. There is even a successful skill check that mentions "her answers come too quickly and she looks down on the ground quickly saying that she doesn't know".

Provided that you turn in a blind eye on Camellia, Anevia is trying very hard to give a "see no evil, hear no evil" vibe. Like, "come on, we all know that she is just a psychotic, murder-happy, obedient-to-her-spirit(?) (we all know) girl who is charming, beautiful and dexterous! Just turn a blind eye on a pathetic nobody crusader who should have been farming his back off since the day he was born in service to us higher-ups."

I might have a (very) poor disposition on Cam so I put it that way, but by how hard Anevia is trying, I can't really help but think that they somehow have a friendship / relationship. Anyone have any idea about what's going on between them? Lmao.
Last edited by Oscar Chan; Aug 14, 2023 @ 4:19am
Originally posted by Ishan451:
Originally posted by Oscar Chan:
I might have a (very) poor disposition on Cam so I put it that way, but by how hard Anevia is trying, I can't really help but think that they somehow have a friendship / relationship. Anyone have any idea about what's going on between them? Lmao.

Really don't know how you read them having a friendship. Annevia tells you, flat out, that she was aware of what is going on, but that she knows it would cause issues for the Crusade if she exposed someone as close to the commander as Camelia. She makes it clear that it is your choice if Cam's downsides outweigh her use as a Companion and that she trusts your decision, because only you can make this decision. She will support the decision you make, for that reason.

Annevia is not Cams friend. She is your Spymaster and she knows what is going on, but you get to tell her to turn a blind eye to it, because you consider Cam more useful on the Battlefield than the occassional misstep off the battlefield.

She even tells you that she won't tell her Wife about it, because Irabeth would not be able to see the utility in a companion at the expense of some deaths.
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Soul Aug 14, 2023 @ 4:27am 
i'd imagine its probably because she is one of your companions.... meaning she's got part of your powers... so that also means if she did wanna make a move on her to put a stop to her she would be going up against someone with mythic levels... by the beginning of the first act Anevia is already thinking of how dangerous you are with only 1 mythic level... you and your companions are more powerful by that point she asks for your help...
kodama Aug 14, 2023 @ 4:45am 
Annevia knows about Cam, she just leaves decision how to to handle her at your discretion (you know, you're the boss and favoritism is a thing).
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Ishan451 Aug 14, 2023 @ 6:13am 
Originally posted by Oscar Chan:
I might have a (very) poor disposition on Cam so I put it that way, but by how hard Anevia is trying, I can't really help but think that they somehow have a friendship / relationship. Anyone have any idea about what's going on between them? Lmao.

Really don't know how you read them having a friendship. Annevia tells you, flat out, that she was aware of what is going on, but that she knows it would cause issues for the Crusade if she exposed someone as close to the commander as Camelia. She makes it clear that it is your choice if Cam's downsides outweigh her use as a Companion and that she trusts your decision, because only you can make this decision. She will support the decision you make, for that reason.

Annevia is not Cams friend. She is your Spymaster and she knows what is going on, but you get to tell her to turn a blind eye to it, because you consider Cam more useful on the Battlefield than the occassional misstep off the battlefield.

She even tells you that she won't tell her Wife about it, because Irabeth would not be able to see the utility in a companion at the expense of some deaths.
smellibear Aug 14, 2023 @ 7:00am 
Originally posted by Ishan451:
Originally posted by Oscar Chan:
I might have a (very) poor disposition on Cam so I put it that way, but by how hard Anevia is trying, I can't really help but think that they somehow have a friendship / relationship. Anyone have any idea about what's going on between them? Lmao.

Really don't know how you read them having a friendship. Annevia tells you, flat out, that she was aware of what is going on, but that she knows it would cause issues for the Crusade if she exposed someone as close to the commander as Camelia. She makes it clear that it is your choice if Cam's downsides outweigh her use as a Companion and that she trusts your decision, because only you can make this decision. She will support the decision you make, for that reason.

Annevia is not Cams friend. She is your Spymaster and she knows what is going on, but you get to tell her to turn a blind eye to it, because you consider Cam more useful on the Battlefield than the occassional misstep off the battlefield.

She even tells you that she won't tell her Wife about it, because Irabeth would not be able to see the utility in a companion at the expense of some deaths.

Yes, all of this. Annevia is ruthless in a way that a paladin can never be. I remember my first playthrough I spared Camelia if she promised to keep her impulses under wraps and Annevia basically said "that's why I asked, not gonna sabotage the commander's group when a war's on"

Camelia would never befriend someone lower class than her anyway
Oscar Chan Aug 14, 2023 @ 7:26am 
Originally posted by Ishan451:
Originally posted by Oscar Chan:
I might have a (very) poor disposition on Cam so I put it that way, but by how hard Anevia is trying, I can't really help but think that they somehow have a friendship / relationship. Anyone have any idea about what's going on between them? Lmao.

Really don't know how you read them having a friendship. Annevia tells you, flat out, that she was aware of what is going on, but that she knows it would cause issues for the Crusade if she exposed someone as close to the commander as Camelia. She makes it clear that it is your choice if Cam's downsides outweigh her use as a Companion and that she trusts your decision, because only you can make this decision. She will support the decision you make, for that reason.

Annevia is not Cams friend. She is your Spymaster and she knows what is going on, but you get to tell her to turn a blind eye to it, because you consider Cam more useful on the Battlefield than the occassional misstep off the battlefield.

She even tells you that she won't tell her Wife about it, because Irabeth would not be able to see the utility in a companion at the expense of some deaths.

Alright I'm just paranoid then lol.

Apparently the chaotic option after you went out of the house is Anevia finishing that piece of human trash off. I thought the chaotic option is simply "KC speaks in a different tune to let Camellia go", as if the game only gives you the sole option of letting her go, in different flavours.

I understand now lol, it looks like it is just she is afraid of offending me for saying that Camellia is sensually savoring the moments of ritualistically murdering someone (like a certain Final Fantasy Villain with blonde hair and has a scythe as his chosen weapon......), in case of the Knight Commander actually like / in a relationship with her. I get that. It just did not sound like that during my first play through lmao.

As Azata I will let her go for it is her freedom to do so and by principle, I can't interfere (perhaps until act 5, need that EXP, baby!). But last run I was Legend (planned to be a Angel-to-Legend run lol, that was a great experience for my first run btw!) and I just killed her outright at that scene, no mercy. I read up about her on the net afterward so I know about her "spirit" and her "passion" lol.
Last edited by Oscar Chan; Aug 14, 2023 @ 7:30am
Oscar Chan Aug 14, 2023 @ 7:34am 
Originally posted by smellibear:
Originally posted by Ishan451:

Really don't know how you read them having a friendship. Annevia tells you, flat out, that she was aware of what is going on, but that she knows it would cause issues for the Crusade if she exposed someone as close to the commander as Camelia. She makes it clear that it is your choice if Cam's downsides outweigh her use as a Companion and that she trusts your decision, because only you can make this decision. She will support the decision you make, for that reason.

Annevia is not Cams friend. She is your Spymaster and she knows what is going on, but you get to tell her to turn a blind eye to it, because you consider Cam more useful on the Battlefield than the occassional misstep off the battlefield.

She even tells you that she won't tell her Wife about it, because Irabeth would not be able to see the utility in a companion at the expense of some deaths.

Yes, all of this. Annevia is ruthless in a way that a paladin can never be. I remember my first playthrough I spared Camelia if she promised to keep her impulses under wraps and Annevia basically said "that's why I asked, not gonna sabotage the commander's group when a war's on"

Camelia would never befriend someone lower class than her anyway

lmao I told Anevia to forget it and she just told me: "Right, mouths shut, already forgotten." So I used to think that she had a "see no evil hear no evil" tune and has a subtle "glad that you decided to "forget" this or we're gonna have beef" undertone, but looks like it was my doing all along lmaoooooo. Least now we got that straight lolololol.
reidj062 Aug 16, 2023 @ 8:42am 
Originally posted by Oscar Chan:
I am on my 2nd playthrough of the game and currently having a blast as an Azata Mage, I just cleanse everything with flames of freedom (+ chain lightning with fire damage), but that's not the point.

During act 3 Anevia tells you that something is happening in the abandoned house, which is suspiciously precise that she knows the exact location, yet refuses to elaborate more. Considering that she is a scout, she should have no problem knowing what's inside, sneaking out, and tell me what's going on. There is even a successful skill check that mentions "her answers come too quickly and she looks down on the ground quickly saying that she doesn't know".

Provided that you turn in a blind eye on Camellia, Anevia is trying very hard to give a "see no evil, hear no evil" vibe. Like, "come on, we all know that she is just a psychotic, murder-happy, obedient-to-her-spirit(?) (we all know) girl who is charming, beautiful and dexterous! Just turn a blind eye on a pathetic nobody crusader who should have been farming his back off since the day he was born in service to us higher-ups."

I might have a (very) poor disposition on Cam so I put it that way, but by how hard Anevia is trying, I can't really help but think that they somehow have a friendship / relationship. Anyone have any idea about what's going on between them? Lmao.

Dude, Anevia's married to Irabeth and she don't mess around like that.
Oscar Chan Aug 16, 2023 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by reidj062:
Originally posted by Oscar Chan:
I am on my 2nd playthrough of the game and currently having a blast as an Azata Mage, I just cleanse everything with flames of freedom (+ chain lightning with fire damage), but that's not the point.

During act 3 Anevia tells you that something is happening in the abandoned house, which is suspiciously precise that she knows the exact location, yet refuses to elaborate more. Considering that she is a scout, she should have no problem knowing what's inside, sneaking out, and tell me what's going on. There is even a successful skill check that mentions "her answers come too quickly and she looks down on the ground quickly saying that she doesn't know".

Provided that you turn in a blind eye on Camellia, Anevia is trying very hard to give a "see no evil, hear no evil" vibe. Like, "come on, we all know that she is just a psychotic, murder-happy, obedient-to-her-spirit(?) (we all know) girl who is charming, beautiful and dexterous! Just turn a blind eye on a pathetic nobody crusader who should have been farming his back off since the day he was born in service to us higher-ups."

I might have a (very) poor disposition on Cam so I put it that way, but by how hard Anevia is trying, I can't really help but think that they somehow have a friendship / relationship. Anyone have any idea about what's going on between them? Lmao.

Dude, Anevia's married to Irabeth and she don't mess around like that.
Like I said, I simply misinterpreted Anevia's shifty attitude and did not investigate further. At least now I know she is definitely on our side. She just needs our word to either let the issue go, or let someone know that arrows reach longer than "spirits".

I was just too used to the "illusion of choice" from other games, and I thought that the different answers after you went back out are different flavours of the KC saying: "OK, you persuaded me, I don't want to have beef with you so I saw nothing." The chaotic option does involve Cam getting murdered, that makes me feel a bit better lmao.

Being paranoid does make things worse, and I was quite so during my first playthrough. ^^
Yannir Aug 17, 2023 @ 12:55am 
Originally posted by Oscar Chan:
Originally posted by reidj062:

Dude, Anevia's married to Irabeth and she don't mess around like that.
Like I said, I simply misinterpreted Anevia's shifty attitude and did not investigate further. At least now I know she is definitely on our side. She just needs our word to either let the issue go, or let someone know that arrows reach longer than "spirits".

I was just too used to the "illusion of choice" from other games, and I thought that the different answers after you went back out are different flavours of the KC saying: "OK, you persuaded me, I don't want to have beef with you so I saw nothing." The chaotic option does involve Cam getting murdered, that makes me feel a bit better lmao.

Being paranoid does make things worse, and I was quite so during my first playthrough. ^^
WotR gives you real choices. So don't worry about "Illusion of choice". It gives you opportunities to be very dark and be rewarded for it. Swarm is the ultimate ♥♥♥♥ all of you equally-path.
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