"Fast Learner" feat as a human, how good is it?

[Sandermatt]

To me this seems quite powerful, as you get in the end up to 20 skill points, much or than with skill focus (but more spread out). How do you like this feat?

[Lightning]

I wouldn't waste a feet on that i thought it was good too but there are better options instead

[Mork]

I do like it on my mutation warrior fighter archer with the pick pocket background but i would not take Fast Learner on someone that don't have a LOT of extra feats...

[Cutlass Jack]

Its a good use of your free feat at level 1. Since you're already getting a free point as a human it works out to 40 extra skill points.

At least if you're doing a skill monkey character. Combine it with Creative Approach (from Bit of Fun) and you'll crush skills.

[Gracey Face]

It's pointless in a computer game since your party always moves as a single entity and so will always have a skillcheck specialist available for any skillcheck. If you're going to solo maybe..?

[Goatmanpig]

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

It's pointless in a computer game since your party always moves as a single entity and so will always have a skillcheck specialist available for any skillcheck. If you're going to solo maybe..?

Not always. Sometimes they force you to just use your's but that only really happens in later chapters.

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by Goatmanpig:

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

It's pointless in a computer game since your party always moves as a single entity and so will always have a skillcheck specialist available for any skillcheck. If you're going to solo maybe..?

Not always. Sometimes they force you to just use your's but that only really happens in later chapters.

Every skillcheck I have seen so far, even when I am the only person in the party, uses other people's skillcheck values. Don't know why that would change.

Kind of wierd too.

[Goatmanpig]

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

Originally posted by Goatmanpig:

Not always. Sometimes they force you to just use your's but that only really happens in later chapters.

Every skillcheck I have seen so far, even when I am the only person in the party, uses other people's skillcheck values. Don't know why that would change.

Kind of wierd too.

It's during certain storybook sequences which is explicitly saying you're doing it.

[Lord_WC]

There are only a few very high skill check requirements in the game (and an overwhelming majority of those are for persuation) and since Fast Learner doesn't increase the actual rank cap it's generally a wasted point.

[malkavius77]

The only time I would get it is if you have a very feat heavy class like fighter. Even then companions can covers all skills you would need in this game so still a meh feat.

[Cutlass Jack]

But also, you can't use someone else's skill to do things like:
Sneaking around maps
Persuasion to Intimidate in combat
Any other skill in combat, like Mobility
Use Magical Device
etc.

[Lightning]

Originally posted by Goatmanpig:

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

It's pointless in a computer game since your party always moves as a single entity and so will always have a skillcheck specialist available for any skillcheck. If you're going to solo maybe..?

Not always. Sometimes they force you to just use your's but that only really happens in later chapters.

Agreed to that point yeah Act 4 with the demon sitting on the throne near the end of the act has you will power your own character check

[Lightning]

Originally posted by Lord_WC:

There are only a few very high skill check requirements in the game (and an overwhelming majority of those are for persuation) and since Fast Learner doesn't increase the actual rank cap it's generally a wasted point.

Agreed, i went through the game without it so far in Act 4 and have been fine with the major skill checks of the 40-50 ones there are items that add a ton of each skill check as well as food for resting with +3 checks so far is the best i can get.

I just go with perks that actually benefit my character to begin with being Spell penetration is a must for my caster or critical strike with preferred weapon

[Balekai]

It's not a bad feat to pick up with Mythic Trickster + a low skill point Class. For example, I picked it up with a caster build of mine using Mythic Trick World Rank 3 (gets rid of feat requirements so racial feats like Fast Learner can be picked up by anyone in party of any race) to get Trickery to 20. One of my throw away tricks was Trickery 1 and used the Trickery Skill points to get a super effective Dispel at will.

You can do a similar thing taking religion to 20 as an extra skill w/ Fast Learner, making your Treat Affliction good enough to strip conditions, while upgrading it with Religion Rank 1 Trick so it removes any negative conditions on the target (not just poison and diseases).

Other than Mythic Trickster, I don't really see a point to taking Fast Learner because as mentioned, most skill checks can be done by other party members. The ones that can't be you probably already have investment in as MC (Mostly Perception and Persuasion checks).