Arcane Strike and caster levels?

[Dolyngwen]

So I'm a fighter and I took Arcane Strike...not sure what my caster level is...guess it's 0 yes? Prolly not a great thing to have?

[Drake]

Super Cosmic Space Magnet の投稿を引用：

Also, all the mythic paths (no idea if Trickster does too, haven't played it yet!) turn you into a Divine Caster if you're not already one. Even if you play as a Dragonheir Scion and don't put levels into anything else, you'll still eventually end up casting spells by the time you're level 9 or so.

Wait isn't lich arcane spellcaster ? Unless it's only if you merge with your spellbook ?
Plus legend, gold dragon and swarm don't have spellbook (devil uses azata or aeon up to caster lv 10, depending on the path you were before, since devil itself isn't a caster).

[Gorwe]

With that said, Scion deserves a thorough look at. If for nothing else, then for Arcane Strike. It should really scale with Scion levels.

[Drake]

Gorwe の投稿を引用：

With that said, Scion deserves a thorough look at. If for nothing else, then for Arcane Strike. It should really scale with Scion levels.

So I read the pnp archetype and it's interesting (not in a good way).

First it's the same for arcane strike, it stays at +1. it's really just a activator for draconic strikes. Then the bloodline isn't a real bloodline, it's kind of like the scaled fist (even less), it's just there to tell you what type of energy is draconic strike, might of the wyrm and the resist energy passive are attuned to.

So it's pretty much an archetype for a pure lv 20 fighter that wants a dazzling display (you have intimidate bonus, use magical device and intimidate as class skill, so you want charisma and intimidating prowess to fear) that works with natural weapons (so it's clear it's made for a race that has natural weapons) preferably several of them to proc a lot of draconic strikes, or cleave or double weapon or dual wield.

Honestly on pnp, the best feature of the class I see is that you can fly at will at lv 15 (which in itself can be very handy for a pure fighter). Which is way less useful in the crpg because there is no height.

[brownacs]

Drake の投稿を引用：

Wait isn't lich arcane spellcaster ? Unless it's only if you merge with your spellbook ?
Plus legend, gold dragon and swarm don't have spellbook (devil uses azata or aeon up to caster lv 10, depending on the path you were before, since devil itself isn't a caster).

Yeap.

[seeker1]

I've been messing around with Eldritch Archer. It's not quite the Arcane Archer prestige class I'm used to. It does have two interesting features: you can add various features (like keen, speed, bane, holy, frost, flame, etc.) unto your bow attacks on the fly. And then with the ranged spellstrike - well, basically, it just seems to combine two attacks in one. You can "load" a ranged touch attack spell into your bow attack, and then both hit the enemy at once.

I think it would be cooler - I was sorta hoping you might be able to do something like load a cone spell into your arrow and then have the cone emit from the point where it hits your target. But it doesn't do that. It doesn't even increase the range. If the ranged touch spell is 30 feet but your bow's range is 50 feet, your ranged spellstrike still only has a range of 30 feet.

Again, I was sorta hoping - for example - you might be able to take a "burst" spell like fireball or whatever with a limited range, say 20 feet, and make it "shoot" farther (like your arrow's range of 50 feet) - doesn't do that either.

One interesting thing, you can "load" a 'true' touch close spell into your arrow, so you can have the arrow hit them with corrosive touch (or whatever) but it's not like reach metamagic can't do this for other casters.

Oh well. As I said, no arcane archer. I wish we had that.

[IlluminaZero]

Super Cosmic Space Magnet の投稿を引用：

Also, all the mythic paths (no idea if Trickster does too, haven't played it yet!) turn you into a Divine Caster if you're not already one. Even if you play as a Dragonheir Scion and don't put levels into anything else, you'll still eventually end up casting spells by the time you're level 9 or so.

I was under impression that Lich was Arcane?

Addendum: oh wow the earlier replies didn’t load for some odd reason <<

[seeker1]

This is what makes arcane archers really cool.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/core-rulebook/arcane-archer/

Imbue Arrow
At 2nd level, an arcane archer gains the ability to place an area spell upon an arrow. When the arrow is fired, the spell’s area is centered where the arrow lands, even if the spell could normally be centered only on the caster. This ability allows the archer to use the bow’s range rather than the spell’s range. A spell cast in this way uses its standard casting time and the arcane archer can fire the arrow as part of the casting. The arrow must be fired during the round that the casting is completed or the spell is wasted. If the arrow misses, the spell is wasted.

[end]

So for example - you could "load" a stormbolts spell into your arrow, and then have it burst out from the target, instead of from you as the caster. Alas, eldritch archer only seems to be able to this with single target ranged touch attack spell.

Of course, the seeker, phase, hail, and death arrow properties are really cool too.

[Schutzengel]

seeker1 の投稿を引用：

This is what makes arcane archers really cool.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/core-rulebook/arcane-archer/

Imbue Arrow
At 2nd level, an arcane archer gains the ability to place an area spell upon an arrow. When the arrow is fired, the spell’s area is centered where the arrow lands, even if the spell could normally be centered only on the caster. This ability allows the archer to use the bow’s range rather than the spell’s range. A spell cast in this way uses its standard casting time and the arcane archer can fire the arrow as part of the casting. The arrow must be fired during the round that the casting is completed or the spell is wasted. If the arrow misses, the spell is wasted.

[end]

So for example - you could "load" a stormbolts spell into your arrow, and then have it burst out from the target, instead of from you as the caster. Alas, eldritch archer only seems to be able to this with single target ranged touch attack spell.

Of course, the seeker, phase, hail, and death arrow properties are really cool too.

Arcane Archer sucks because you cant use a Crossbow. No Crossbow = no deal.

[meiam]

It kinda sound like eldritch archer is a class you just dip 2 level in to get a "free" attack out of it but you then pivot to some spellcaster with average BAB or rely on mythic spell and go full BAB class.