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Viper Sep 19, 2021 @ 3:49pm
SUccubus at Tiranbae Residence
Always dominates my high dmg character who proceeds to kill a couple of my guys. I am only level 4. This enemy is level 9 AC 29. Defintelly a 4 later visit. NO worries...
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Frozen Dervish Sep 19, 2021 @ 3:54pm 
Use deep slumber - Ember
Trip - melee
Just make sure to reveal her before she finishes casting.
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Viper Sep 19, 2021 @ 3:56pm 
I'll come back.Ember is not traveling with me right now..No hurry.
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Rosh+ Sep 19, 2021 @ 4:38pm 
Use protection from evil. Yeah, I know, I know; It doesn't say it protects from domination, that's what I thought too. Turns out it doesn't in Kingmaker, but it definitely does here, I tested it personally. Don't ask me why it's not in the description. Yet another unfinished aspect of the game most likely.
Last edited by Rosh+; Sep 19, 2021 @ 6:37pm
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Super-XIX Sep 19, 2021 @ 4:47pm 
Originally posted by Rosh+:
Use protection from evil. Yeah, I know, I know; It doesn't say it protects from domination, that's what I thought too. Turns out it doesn't in Kingmaker, but it definitely does here, I tested it personally. Don't ask me why it's not in the description. Yet another unfinished aspect of the game most likely.

100% this. Protection from Alignment spells are super good for this and other fights with Succubi or other mind controlling enemies. Too bad the Communal version's duration is so short.

I was doing a crusade fight and a succubus mind controlled my stack of 1k Rangers and it was more dangerous to my units than any enemy ever was lmao.
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Amogus Sep 19, 2021 @ 4:54pm 
That sound like HEntai plot.
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mosspit Sep 19, 2021 @ 4:55pm 
Yes, and the description does point out that they protect the user against charm and dominate attempts.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2606669733

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2606669685

In game, I also tested the run-in with the succubus and the target straight-up becomes immune to the dominate attempt too.
Last edited by mosspit; Sep 19, 2021 @ 4:58pm
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Frozen Dervish Sep 19, 2021 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by Rosh+:
Use protection from evil. Yeah, I know, I know; It doesn't say it protects from domination, that's what I thought too. Turns out it doesn't in Kingmaker, but it definitely does here, I tested it personally. Don't ask me why it's not in the description. Yet another unfinished aspect of the game most likely.

That is definitely good to know!
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Cutlass Jack Sep 19, 2021 @ 5:06pm 
Remember if Ember is with you, she can easily sleep the party member who gets controlled. Either way, the fight is pretty easy once you don't have to fight your own people.
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I gurgle for Nurgle Sep 19, 2021 @ 5:19pm 
Originally posted by Viper:
Always dominates my high dmg character who proceeds to kill a couple of my guys. I am only level 4. This enemy is level 9 AC 29. Defintelly a 4 later visit. NO worries...
Let me guess, you high dmg character is Woljif. Succubus in manor only went for males for some reason. Also, cannot dominate someone it can't see, so invis is quite helpful.

Originally posted by Rosh+:
Use protection from evil. Yeah, I know, I know; It doesn't say it protects from domination, that's what I thought too. Turns out it doesn't in Kingmaker, but it definitely does here, I tested it personally. Don't ask me why it's not in the description. Yet another unfinished aspect of the game most likely.
It shouldn't automatically protect from charms. It should only give bonus+advantage on saves.
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Rosh+ Sep 19, 2021 @ 5:46pm 
Originally posted by mosspit:
Yes, and the description does point out that they protect the user against charm and dominate attempts.

In game, I also tested the run-in with the succubus and the target straight-up becomes immune to the dominate attempt too.

The potion description does, but the actual spell has nothing in the description saying as much, which was what I was talking about.

Originally posted by Alm:
It shouldn't automatically protect from charms. It should only give bonus+advantage on saves.

It doesn't say so in the description, but it straight up makes people immune to domination specifically, now. It also says this is what protection from alignment is meant to do in PnP, but this wasn't true ingame until now. It never worked this way in Kingmaker.
Last edited by Rosh+; Sep 19, 2021 @ 5:47pm
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mosspit Sep 19, 2021 @ 6:04pm 
Originally posted by Rosh+:
Originally posted by mosspit:
Yes, and the description does point out that they protect the user against charm and dominate attempts.

In game, I also tested the run-in with the succubus and the target straight-up becomes immune to the dominate attempt too.

The potion description does, but the actual spell has nothing in the description saying as much, which was what I was talking about.

Let’s avoid being too pedantic here. I just want to provide OP with the answers. And one of them is with consumables. I am just pointing out that OP can see the description from the consumables section.

This is not directed at you to state you’re wrong. But it is to supplement your answer with the consumable options. That is why i didn’t quote you. For the initial post at least.
Last edited by mosspit; Sep 19, 2021 @ 6:10pm
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Soft Lockpick Sep 19, 2021 @ 6:10pm 
Grease and alpha strikes were all this one took I think. Even if she isn't going to fall over, the dominated tanky person will. Then light her up.

Grease is enough to carry you through chapter 1. Added bonus if you have a slumber hex or two in party.
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Babbles Sep 19, 2021 @ 6:17pm 
Originally posted by Frozen Dervish:
Use deep slumber - Ember
Trip - melee
Just make sure to reveal her before she finishes casting.

You are taking the piss, right? Endless Slumber is a level 10 ability ...
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Rosh+ Sep 19, 2021 @ 6:34pm 
Originally posted by mosspit:
Let’s avoid being too pedantic here. I just want to provide OP with the answers. And one of them is with consumables. I am just pointing out that OP can see the description from the consumables section.

This is not directed at you to state you’re wrong. But it is to supplement your answer with the consumable options. That is why i didn’t quote you. For the initial post at least.

Fair enough; as was I in regard to supplementation. I was just making the distinction between the consumable and the actual spell to avoid confusion, since you never did in your post besides with the picture. One could assume you meant both otherwise, and that could be a bit confusing considering that a lot of debate on the discussions right now is mostly a case of he-said/she-said.
Last edited by Rosh+; Sep 19, 2021 @ 6:34pm
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Mechalibur Sep 19, 2021 @ 6:56pm 
Originally posted by Babbles:
Originally posted by Frozen Dervish:
Use deep slumber - Ember
Trip - melee
Just make sure to reveal her before she finishes casting.

You are taking the piss, right? Endless Slumber is a level 10 ability ...

Regular Slumber works just as well. Although if you're doing that strategy, you'll probably have to reload a bunch because the succubus has a pretty high will save.
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