In pathfinder universe who is stronger?

[sleeper]

The demon lords of the abyss or the eldest ones from the first world?

[sleeper]

Originally posted by Northern:

Demon lords are vary hard.

Some are borderline gods, some just very beefy balors.

I'd say eldest noticably stronger than average demon lord.

What about the fey the one we fight in kingmaker how does he rank among the eldest?

[Tourak]

The Demon Lords can be technically killed, while the eldest will reincarnate eternally? So I guess I'd give a slight edge to the Eldest.

[Fluff]

Originally posted by Uzkin:

Originally posted by Aunt Tony:

Canonically, the Eldest.

They're beyond divinity to the point that the gods are to them as mortals are to the gods. The Eldest just don't really take much personal interest in other planes of existence. Demon lords aren't even as powerful as gods, they aren't actually divinities themselves. Asmodeus ascended to godhood, but he's a devil and is the only one.

Nope, deities are above the Eldest. For example, when one of the Eldest stole a piece of the River of Souls, Pharasma (the goddess of Death) roflstomped said Eldest and erased him/her/it from existence so that no one even remembers this Eldest's name any more.

Don't know much about Pathfinder, but isn't Pharasma the mightiest among Gods (the only one that survived smth smth according to this game), so that example is not very fair? :d

[B Unit]

Originally posted by sleeper:

Originally posted by Northern:

Demon lords are vary hard.

Some are borderline gods, some just very beefy balors.

I'd say eldest noticably stronger than average demon lord.

What about the fey the one we fight in kingmaker how does he rank among the eldest?

The Lantern King is one of the Eldest.

[sleeper]

Originally posted by sweetchilliheat:

Originally posted by sleeper:

What about the fey the one we fight in kingmaker how does he rank among the eldest?

The Lantern King is one of the Eldest.

And among the other eldest how is he in terms of power?

[B Unit]

Originally posted by sleeper:

Originally posted by sweetchilliheat:

The Lantern King is one of the Eldest.

And among the other eldest how is he in terms of power?

Hard to say but "The other Eldest cautiously respect the Lantern King, as even they are not immune to his pranks, particularly Ragadahn and the Lost Prince, whom he considers too serious. He is mysteriously friendly with Ng, and respects Shyka, who has seen all of his schemes and is hard to fool."

[sleeper]

Originally posted by Tusk_Luv:

Originally posted by Uzkin:

Nope, deities are above the Eldest. For example, when one of the Eldest stole a piece of the River of Souls, Pharasma (the goddess of Death) roflstomped said Eldest and erased him/her/it from existence so that no one even remembers this Eldest's name any more.

Don't know much about Pathfinder, but isn't Pharasma the mightiest among Gods (the only one that survived smth smth according to this game), so that example is not very fair? :d

Yes she is the strongest and probably the leader of the gods but does it mean that the other gods could not hurt a eldest or kill it in less extreme ways?

[Black Hammer]

Rovagug could eat all the Eldest and come back for seconds.

[Uzkin]

Originally posted by Tusk_Luv:

Don't know much about Pathfinder, but isn't Pharasma the mightiest among Gods (the only one that survived smth smth according to this game), so that example is not very fair? :d

Rovagug is most likely stronger than Pharasma. Pharasma may be the second-most powerful or not, but there are a few deities that are at least very close to her power.

Shyka the Many (one of the Eldest) said something like "the Eldest have learned their lesson and do not try to challenge the gods again".

[sleeper]

So from what I understand demon lords with one exception and the eldest are demigods. So do demigods vary in power?

[XartaX]

Asmodeus isn't a demon lord. He's an Archdevil.

[sleeper]

Originally posted by XartaX:

Asmodeus isn't a demon lord. He's an Archdevil.

I meant Lamashu you know that demon god the goblins in kingmaker kept worshiping.

[B Unit]

https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Demigod

Take a look at the above and jump down the rabbit hole.

[sleeper]

are we a demigod in this from act2 forward cause we kinda fit the definition.

[XartaX]

Well Lamashtu isn't the only demon lord that became a god. Nocticula became a god, for example, Asmodeus is the only Archdevil that ascended to godhood.