"Evil" companions on a "Good" playthrough?

[Durzo Gaelfire]

Finally taking the time to really dive into this game for the first time. I plan on making a Oracle Angel that is lawful good. Do I have to be mindful of which companions I decide to take with me and invest in? If I have a companion I like but they are "evil" will it mess things up for me?

[Razer]

Generally no. Evil companions will just complain more when you take this route. And to be fair there's only 4 evil companions, one of which has an incorrect alignment and should be chaotic neutral instead. I would just bring whoever you like.

[Durzo Gaelfire]

Originally posted by Razer:

Generally no. Evil companions will just complain more when you take this route. And to be fair there's only 4 evil companions, one of which has an incorrect alignment and should be chaotic neutral instead. I would just bring whoever you like.

Okay that is good to know. I have no idea which companions I can recruit and I am trying to go into the game somewhat blind as far as characters and story go.

[Razer]

Originally posted by Durzo Gaelfire:

Originally posted by Razer:

Generally no. Evil companions will just complain more when you take this route. And to be fair there's only 4 evil companions, one of which has an incorrect alignment and should be chaotic neutral instead. I would just bring whoever you like.

Okay that is good to know. I have no idea which companions I can recruit and I am trying to go into the game somewhat blind as far as characters and story go.

That's a good idea for a first experience. There's really no companion that is detrimental to your playthrough and if you end up not liking one or two you can always tell them to leave. Either during their companion quests or just by talking to them at base. Of course some of the evil companions are truly evil and you may not want them around :)

[dwarfpcfan]

kindly not however that 2 characters Lann and Wenduag are mutually exclusive to keep.

[PoohPus]

Originally posted by dwarfpcfan:

kindly not however that 2 characters Lann and Wenduag are mutually exclusive to keep.

It's actually possible to eventually have both.

[PoohPus]

There is at least one companion who is so extremely evil in it's truest sense that you will have to make a choice between keeping it or accept being responsible to continuous heinous acts.

But it doesn't prevent you from being a LG oracle angel mechanically. You will always be able to compensate with good acts to counteract the evil ones.

I don't know how keeping the companion would affect a paladin.

SPOILER:
Just in case you want to avoid that one companion, the companion I'm thinking of is:
..the female elf with the alignment-obscuring necklace.
I wouldn't invest in that companion on a good playthrough on account of roleplay.

[dwarfpcfan]

Originally posted by PoohPus:

Originally posted by dwarfpcfan:

kindly not however that 2 characters Lann and Wenduag are mutually exclusive to keep.

It's actually possible to eventually have both.

If you recruit Lann first in chapter 1, Wenduag can join in chapter 3 but will automatically betray you to Savamalek and you will be force to kill her. There is no way around this. So not really

[Razer]

Let's not put any spoilers guys. You use spoiler tags and then still spoil outside the spoiler tags. Come on.

[Rizilliant]

Originally posted by Durzo Gaelfire:

Finally taking the time to really dive into this game for the first time. I plan on making a Oracle Angel that is lawful good. Do I have to be mindful of which companions I decide to take with me and invest in? If I have a companion I like but they are "evil" will it mess things up for me?

I personally TRY to take thematically accurate coompanions, but it is possible to play with all companions.. they may let you know their displeasure, and in extreme cases, may eventually leave if youre too evil, but it works for the most part without too much limitation.. I just prefer to really role play the team, so neutral and good temmates for a good PC, and likewise... Depending upon the companion, ofcourse.. Each has a personality pretty welldone

[Dre]

I finally a good playthrought (Angel->Gold Dragon) with one evil companion in group, and it´s totally fine

[Dre]

Originally posted by PoohPus:

There is at least one companion who is so extremely evil in it's truest sense that you will have to make a choice between keeping it or accept being responsible to continuous heinous acts.

But it doesn't prevent you from being a LG oracle angel mechanically. You will always be able to compensate with good acts to counteract the evil ones.

I don't know how keeping the companion would affect a paladin.

SPOILER:
Just in case you want to avoid that one companion, the companion I'm thinking of is:
..the female elf with the alignment-obscuring necklace.
I wouldn't invest in that companion on a good playthrough on account of roleplay.

Tbh, I love the revelation and how you stays because friends are what we do in travelling the road x)

[Laluzi]

Originally posted by dwarfpcfan:

Originally posted by PoohPus:

It's actually possible to eventually have both.

If you recruit Lann first in chapter 1, Wenduag can join in chapter 3 but will automatically betray you to Savamalek and you will be force to kill her. There is no way around this. So not really

This is correct, but if you pick the evil option and refuse to let her join your party in Act 3 because she's too weak, you'll skip over the automatic betrayal in Act 4 and be able to recruit her again in Act 5, where it's too late to do her personal quest but she can't betray you anymore, so you get to keep her to the end.

The same holds for a run where you picked Wenduag instead of Lann, but I think it requires a particular sequence of the first two major choices in order to get him to join you at the end. In a run where I hid the Light of the Angels from the Mongrels but used it against Salamvelekh, he wouldn't join me in Act 5. I think you need to do the opposite in order to have Wenduag throughout the game but get Lann to join you at the end.

To the OP, if you're playing a good run and making good choices: the game never forces you to abandon any of them for strictly good/evil reasons (some may leave based on your mythic path, but that's separate, fairly specific, and rather predictable in where conflicts will arise. IIRC it won't happen on Angel.) Several of the evil companions actually end up being your tightest and most stalwart bros. But a few of them will do some pretty evil stuff on their own accord, and you have to choose between allowing them their excesses and hoping they'll improve, or dealing with them. So like, you're not mechanically forced to part ways, but you might get morally challenged into doing it.

[cherub5667]

Originally posted by Laluzi:

Originally posted by dwarfpcfan:

If you recruit Lann first in chapter 1, Wenduag can join in chapter 3 but will automatically betray you to Savamalek and you will be force to kill her. There is no way around this. So not really

This is correct, but if you pick the evil option and refuse to let her join your party in Act 3 because she's too weak, you'll skip over the automatic betrayal in Act 4 and be able to recruit her again in Act 5, where it's too late to do her personal quest but she can't betray you anymore, so you get to keep her to the end.

The same holds for a run where you picked Wenduag instead of Lann, but I think it requires a particular sequence of the first two major choices in order to get him to join you at the end. In a run where I hid the Light of the Angels from the Mongrels but used it against Salamvelekh, he wouldn't join me in Act 5. I think you need to do the opposite in order to have Wenduag throughout the game but get Lann to join you at the end.

To the OP, if you're playing a good run and making good choices: the game never forces you to abandon any of them for strictly good/evil reasons (some may leave based on your mythic path, but that's separate, fairly specific, and rather predictable in where conflicts will arise. IIRC it won't happen on Angel.) Several of the evil companions actually end up being your tightest and most stalwart bros. But a few of them will do some pretty evil stuff on their own accord, and you have to choose between allowing them their excesses and hoping they'll improve, or dealing with them. So like, you're not mechanically forced to part ways, but you might get morally challenged into doing it.

Well kinda sorta not true, you are mechanically forced to deal with it or they do leave. for instance I know of a particular companion that falls into this category. Your giving a event to investigate a murder, knowing what I know, i knew what it was about, but i wanted to keep the companions so i choose to ignore it. Then you are confronted with it, with by someone insisting you investigate. Again knowing what I knew I said no, and that was the end of it.

The game then just forces the issue and the companion is just now gone. Kinda sucks, cause the person who helped her disappered from Drezen as well, only for that person to be back, pratically gloating in your face.

But in the end it does not matter never wanted to use the companion regardless of my play-through.

[IlluminaZero]

Daeran and Regill are true ride or die bros. Wenduag can become surprisingly loyal to not only the KC but the other companions... Which is actually kind of jarring based off of how she is in the prologue IMO.

The OTHER one is only redeemable with extreme irrational mental gymnastics.

[Shahadem]

Originally posted by dwarfpcfan:

Originally posted by PoohPus:

It's actually possible to eventually have both.

If you recruit Lann first in chapter 1, Wenduag can join in chapter 3 but will automatically betray you to Savamalek and you will be force to kill her. There is no way around this. So not really

There is if instead of recruiting her in chapter 3 you send her packing with her tail between her legs and then recruit her in act 5 instead.

Regill doesn't hate every good decision and doesn't love every evil decision.

You could easily pair him alongside a good angel.