Stacking DC still possible?

[Baldurs_Gate_2]

Expanded arsenal was nerfed or? How high can you still stack DC for a wizard either with mythic path Lich or Demon?

[Deo]

Still possible, even it's a bit weaker than before. They fixed Expanded Arsenal, but broke it again in another way (wrong interaction with mythic spell focus). You get increased DC a bit late, too.

Now exploit for DC stacking looks like this:

Say, you need increased Evocation DC for Shout, Greater.
You pick SF (Enchantment), GSF (Enchantment).
You pick Mythic Spell Focus Enchantment on 2 mythic.
You pick Expanded Arsenal Evocation on 4 mythic - it gets bugged increased DC bonuses.
You pick Expanded Arsenal Illusion on 6 mythic - it gets bugged increased DC bonuses and further increasing DC for both Evocation and Illusion.
You pick Expanded Arsenal Conjuration on 8 mythic - it gets same stuff as Illusion and Evocation.

So, for lvl 1 character with 20 INT and 8 mythic levels, DC for first lvl spells is:
Enchantment - 20 DC (10 base, 1 spell, 5 from attribute, 2 spell focuses, 2 mythic spell focus)
Conjuration, Illusion, Evocation - 28 DC.

Ambuscading Spell feat adds another +2DC vs flat-footed enemies.

1 lvl dip into Ranger Demonslayer allowing to pick Favored Enemy Spellcasting feat, which gives +2DC vs favored enemies (Demons of Magic, Strength, Slaughter).

[Faust]

Hi, is there a reason to space out the expanded arsenal by one mythic each time (MR2 and MR4)?

is this configuration possible, or is it necessary to take one mythic feat out of two with expanded arsenal?

- Mythic Abilities and Feats:

MR1: Favorite Metamagic - Selective
MR2: Favorite Metamagic - Extend***
MR3: Mythic Spell Focus (Abjuration)*
MR4: Expanded Arsenal - Evocation
MR5: Expanded Arsenal - Enchantment
MR6: Expanded Arsenal - illusion
MR7: Mythic Improved Initiative+
MR8: Abundant Casting I
MR9: Abundant Casting II
MR10: Abundant Casting III

Sorry if it's not very clear it's not my native language.

[Deo]

Originally posted by Faust:

Hi, is there a reason to space out the expanded arsenal by one mythic each time (MR2 and MR4)?

You can only pick mythic feats on ranks 2,4,6,8.
You can only pick mythic abilities on ranks 1,3,5,7,9.

[Razer]

Originally posted by Deo:

Originally posted by Faust:

Hi, is there a reason to space out the expanded arsenal by one mythic each time (MR2 and MR4)?

You can only pick mythic feats on ranks 2,4,6,8.
You can only pick mythic abilities on ranks 1,3,5,7,9.

You can pick mythic abilities on ranks 2,4,6 and 8 as well. The only thing that's limited is mythic feats.

[Faust]

Thank you, I'm resuming the game after more than a year and indeed the leveling of mythical powers for the arsenal is indeed at even numbers. sorry for the stupid question. Thanks for answering.

[Faust]

I've already played buff melee casters.
I'm trying a group with a DC opti caster and a beam blaster.
Indeed it's much more complicated but killing everything in one click must be nice, just don't mess up because otherwise I think your group goes from life to death.