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I understand the concerns about legality, especially when it involves well-known actors or celebrities, but there’s a growing argument that AI voice replication can be an extension of fan creativity, much like fan art. It really depends on whether it's being used in a commercial way or simply for fun, non-commercial projects like mods. I believe there’s a middle ground where people can enjoy these tools while still respecting the boundaries of voice actors and celebrities.
Ultimately, it’s about balancing creative freedom with ethical considerations, and I think with proper guidelines, AI voice use doesn’t always have to be “wrong” by default. So as long as the content creator is not making any profit from it and is not using it for nasty stuff like corn mods(which is disgusting imho) I find it fine. But I still understand your point and even agree to a degree
Feels bad man.
Future is going to happen regardless. With guidelines as Irinka said.
Anyway this is not the place for that.
Microsoft offers voices. If legality should be held it should be done on Microsoft side. NOT on mod side and your misdirected rage should be addressed to them not nexus or mod
Those people also likely said they don't want AI to imitate them. Which is their prerogative and it should be respected.
Finally, there is nothing "creative" in asking an AI to read some lines. Is using a calculator to do maths "creative" now ? I feel like such a creative person when I use auto correct on someone else text to.
Truth is, not everyone can be a creator, at least a good one. No matter how hard I try, I can't draw, and I can't sing either. Now, I can use AI and pretend I draw, and use auto tune to pretend I sing, but it's fake. But everyone can do that. In the end, I'm still a terrible artist and a worse singer.
Oh yeah, guidelines. The same one that prevented climate changes (I do love 40°c+ summer in a place where record temperature used to be in the 30 before, and not having seen snow in years), using plastic to feed pigs, made sure micro-plastic didn't end in the food we eat, prevented company to grow so big we can't stop them anymore (like how Microsoft bullied Great Britain to accept their deal with Blizzard), powerful people to own large media company and turn them into their own propaganda arm, made oil company accountable, made sure justice was equal for all no matter of wealth and power, made sure kill switch were not installed in machines so John Deer can't literally block an entire country worth of food production with a switch, sugar (or worse, corn syrup) is not overused in food creating massive obesity and health issues...
Heck, in my country it's perfectly legal to have minced meat sold being half plant (usually bamboo trash), half meat. Thanks guidelines.
Yeah, I'm sure those guidelines will work. I see no reasons why they wouldn't.
I agree tho, future is going to happen regardless.
Regarding the idea that some actors don’t want AI to imitate them, I completely agree that their wishes should be respected. But that’s where consent and licensing come into play. Also each country has different laws about it so it can vary a lot depending on where you live. If creators are mindful of these boundaries and make no profit of it, it can still be a space for innovation. And let’s not forget, there are many voice actors and creators who do offer their voices for AI use, which opens up more ethical ways to experiment with these tools.
While it's true that not everyone is a "creator" in the traditional sense, AI can help people express themselves in new ways, even if they can’t draw or sing. It doesn’t have to replace real creativity, but it can supplement it, allowing more people to participate in projects they love.
I believe that with the right balance, it’s possible to enjoy the benefits of AI without losing respect for the original artists and actors involved. It’s about how we use the tool, not just the tool itself.
As for the larger issues you raised about guidelines and accountability, I get the frustration—there’s a lot that hasn’t gone right with enforcing rules in other industries. But I won't get into it in order to not derail the main topic of the discussion.
There's also the example of Scarlett Johansson and the company that wanted to use her voice for an ad of some sort (I think it was an ad?). She didn't want to do it and declined. So the company went ahead and used an AI voice instead. However the voice sounded identitcal to Scarlett's. She had to file a lawsuit against them and they denied it was her voice initially. Ultimately they made no statement saying it was her voice, but the voicework was removed nonetheless. Now of course this is actual work and not a mod, but it is the same in the sense of identity theft. And it's something that we have to be very careful with going forward. AI is amazing and you can do cool things with it. But you can't forget to respect people while doing this.
Using someone's voice or likeness requires consent. And possibly payment if that person wants that. It's not the same as fan art. The issue arises when it becomes unclear when there is no distinction between the "art" and the real thing. You can also not just use a piece of music for similar reasons. And using something that's part of someone's identity (like a voice) is even worse in my opinion.
You have like no idea what I'm saying. I don't hate your mod. However if the voice used is taken from someone else without consent then I am definitely against it. Now if the voices in this Microsoft Voice thingy are stolen then that's another story. I didn't say this was the case, but let's humour that. Let's say the voices are stolen. Then people shouldn't be using it and nexus shouldn't have it on their site. There's legal rammifications for using stolen goods. If you are aware of stolen goods and you receive them, then by law in many counties you can be charged with a felony as well. Same for nexus mods. This is why Nexus mods remove illegal stuff from their site all the time. You can't just say, "well I didn't steal it so it's ok".
But that wasn't even my point, my point was if you create a mod and use an actors voice then you're stealing their identity and that is illegal and you can be charged for that. And should be. I personally think the laws and the way we handle this is far too lenient. People are just now becoming aware of the implications of AI and adjusting laws to deal with it. And I personally am in favor of doubling down hard on people stealing someone's identity. Even if it's "for funzies". It's a serious crime and can be incredibly harmful.
Thank you @IceLancer for liking my mod and posting about it here.
I just want to make a couple of points clear about the mod that have also been a talking point on the NexusMods discussion.
Theft of intellectual property by using a voice from an unlicensed source:
The mod does not contain any voices at all. The voices available are the once you have available through the SAPI interface on PC and through the 'say'-terminal command on MacOS (no support for Linux as of yet). This means that the voice you have installed by your own volition and is exposed through the Microsoft SAPI interface on PC and the built in system command 'say' on MacOS, is all up to you. The standard voices that "comes with the mod" are the non-generative-AI voices built into Windows, so nothing to worry about there.
Various community mebers have helped with guides as to how to get more of the official Windows voices into the game by various means. One of these types of voices are the voices readily available through the Windows Narrator and are called Natural voices which, is downloadable through Windows own Narrator settings. However to get these into the game you need to install a third party tool since these voices are not inherintly available to the SAPI interface. I can see how this can be viewed as a gray area, but to me it has very little to do with the mod itself, but to do with the voices you install on your machine to be used.
I have through the entire development of this mod been adamant about not including unlicensed material of any kind. I made this mod to help with accessibility and I do not condone any form of illegal use of it.