Espionage Expert and Ranger's Bond?

[Brian]

One of the gimmicks of the EE is that it switches spellcasting from Wisdom to Charisma. However, the Hunter's Bond feat mentions nothing about switching to Charisma. Is this just a typo or is the game actually asking the EE to use both Wisdom and Charisma?

[Niklasbane(PM)]

It's a big problem with the game's tooltips in general actually; whenever a character - for whatever reason - has a changed stat reliance (such as getting to use Charisma instead of Wisdom) it doesn't change the tooltips of abilities to indicate if they inherit the change or not. It makes it extremely unintuitive and confusing what counts for what without having to look it up online.

Zen Archer class has similar issues, where it doesn't specify at all what conventional monk abilities translate to bows despite the class description saying that they ambiguously channel their monk abilities through the bow instead of their fists.
(Most monk abilities do in fact NOT translate.)

My read on Espionage Expert for Ranger's Bond is that Hunter's Mark now goes entirely off Wisdom and not Charisma, and it sucks ass that the tooltip doesn't update to tell you such when you look up the ability with an EE character.

[Brian]

Originally posted by Niklasbane(PM):

It's a big problem with the game's tooltips in general actually; whenever a character - for whatever reason - has a changed stat reliance (such as getting to use Charisma instead of Wisdom) it doesn't change the tooltips of abilities to indicate if they inherit the change or not. It makes it extremely unintuitive and confusing what counts for what without having to look it up online.

Zen Archer class has similar issues, where it doesn't specify at all what conventional monk abilities translate to bows despite the class description saying that they ambiguously channel their monk abilities through the bow instead of their fists.
(Most monk abilities do in fact NOT translate.)

My read on Espionage Expert for Ranger's Bond is that Hunter's Mark now goes entirely off Wisdom and not Charisma, and it sucks ass that the tooltip doesn't update to tell you such when you look up the ability with an EE character.

I think you meant that vice versa. But I get what you mean. I guess in order to know, someone would have to study it in the combat log in detail. Something I'm way too lazy and inexperienced to do.

[mbradtke]

who knows, it is not only about switched stats, you would have to test it,
other strange stuff are tooltips that say it is a swift action but actually it is a free action, f.e tortured crusaders lay of hands or shifter claws dealing blunt and slashing dmg but tooltip says it is piercing and slashing dmg...