This perma daze craze.. Gm must hate playerss

[PuppYofDOOM]

No amount of resistance is gonna help you. You just get dazed forever in random encounters. Sometimes u get a nabasu with two fat dazers off the bat right next to you and ur whole party is held and dazed. Its rediculous! I never seen such garbage unbalance.

U have to make ur whole party run away and definitely have a pet for daeran or he cant run.. Lol.. Then u have to pray ur skeletons bother them enough and ur not in thre massive daze range.

This is right after drezen going south.. Its like wth is this madness?


A spell that affects 5hd lasting for 1 minute on spam.... W t eff

[Player#2201]

Are you sure it's the daze condition and not paralysis from their Mass Hold Person spell?

[PuppYofDOOM]

Originally posted by Player#2201:

Are you sure it's the daze condition and not paralysis from their Mass Hold Person spell?

Its daze! The fat big things giant ones they do unholy blight. Multiple times and daze.

You have to figure out a way to let it run out. Or spam summons Theres no blocking that garbage. Characters says daze 1 min.


I dunno of they changed something but encountering em regularly after drezen is INSANE... Nuts!

They also cast feebleminded whichnu cant cure without HEAL SPELL.... blah!

And theyre always random encounters.. Negayive levels u can learn deal with.. That crap.. Nope..

[wendigo211]

You need a character with Rupture Restraints and Dimension Door. If that character (or another one with RR) has Joyful Rapture and Unbreakable Heart that's a bonus too. Seriously, the CC ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is just beginning. Hopefully you don't end up fighting Nocticula, with her DC 53 Fascinate effect that gets reapplied, unless you save against it, as soon as you remove it AND she starts combat almost immediately with a Wail of the Banshee that deals 1200+ points of unholy damage to everyone.

If you're talking about the Nafalshee, then there isn't much you can do against Unholy Nimbus other than run when they're charging it up and comeback after it triggers. If you have good alpha strike capabilities, you might be able to kill one before they get off their nimbus, but there's at least one fight with three of them. If you have a Kineticist you can try Deadly Earth + Cloud + Wall and just let them kill themselves when they try to walk over it to reach you. Blade Barrier spam should also work, maybe Sirocco as well. You can try undead summons and ranged attacks, undead are immune to most CC so they can last a while.

Shield of Law does help with a lot of CC effects, there's not much else. I'm pretty sure that Mind Blank is bugged and isn't giving you a +8 to saves against anything.

[PuppYofDOOM]

Originally posted by wendigo211:

If you're talking about the Nafalshee, then there isn't much you can do against Unholy Nimbus other than run when they're charging it up and comeback after it triggers. If you have good alpha strike capabilities, you might be able to kill one before they get off their nimbus, but there's at least one fight with three of them. If you have a Kineticist you can try Deadly Earth + Cloud + Wall and just let them kill themselves when they try to walk over it to reach you. Blade Barrier spam should also work, maybe Sirocco as well. You can try undead summons and ranged attacks, undead are immune to most CC so they can last a while.

Shield of Law does help with a lot of CC effects, there's not much else. I'm pretty sure that Mind Blank is bugged and isn't giving you a +8 to saves against anything.

Yes im running into random encounters as soon as i leave drezen with 2 of them dead on you. Its range is massive.

Nothing saves! This isnt like an encounter where u can prepare.

I could handle that with bait till it runs out... But random encounters where theyre right behind you..two of them! Tiny tiny super tiny map with no where to run. .09 seconds to act.

Right after Drezen... Holy crap u dont even get the spells to deal with everything.

Somehow even spells which should make you immune dont work! It makes no sense!

Ive read on reddit even undead characters get cc'd by this!

[wendigo211]

For the random encounters (and some of the later ones where cutscenes put you in a similar situation) you really need someone with Rupture Restraints and Dimension Door. As soon as the fight starts and they get dazed, RR frees them and they use DD to get everyone somewhere safe. Not every map has somewhere safe, but even if just buys you a round or two, that's hopefully enough to free some people and drop some summons.

Alternatively, you can save scum on the map until you pass that stealth check to bypass the encounter or start it on your own terms.