How to get more points on character creation?

[ValerioRoma]

I know it's cheating but it's a solo game so who cares. I'd like to have more than 25 points to buy stats while creating a custom character. I read in some other forum it is possibile but no one specified how. Is it a mod or something? Does onyone know how to do it? Thanks :-)

[Gorwe]

Toybox mod has this option. Will write more when I have access to my PC.

[ValerioRoma]

Thank you! :-)

[Aussie 760]

Toybox or the full respec mod allow you to alter the creation points:

https://github.com/Vek17/WrathMods-TabletopTweaks/releases

https://github.com/BarleyFlour/RespecMod/releases

PS: I agree with the solo game, who cares mentality. Its why I full respec and tweak the companions to be in theme, but better.

[seeker1]

By default, Toybox has mercs start with the same points as other characters (25 instead of 20) ... and it should be that way (IMHO). You can, of course, increase both.

[Gorwe]

Also, it's a solo game, who cares what you do. I, for example, completely revamped the game via Toybox(for starters, spells are per ENCOUNTER, NOT per REST, I also enabled Archetype stacking etc). And know what? I HAVE FUN, who cares about some rules and morals? Just HAVE FUN! ;)

[ValerioRoma]

Thanks to everyone! I'll try these mods. Are "Toybox" and "TabletopTweaks" Aussie linked the same thing? :-)

[seeker1]

Nope, they're separate mods.

I would say that they are at Nexus, but I believe due to Nexus policies both may have moved to GitHub.

TabletopTweaks is more focused on bringing in some "missing" things from tabletop rules, making things work more properly like tabletop, and some things that are basically bugfixes (like making Loremaster do what it says).

Toybox ... can be used in a lot of ways, including godmoding through the entire game if you want to. In reality, it also, in some ways, lets you also fix things that are bugged and broken, including quests. Be careful ... messing in the "Etudes" can fix things that are broken OR break them worse, so use at your own risk. Save often and early.

[Aussie 760]

Originally posted by ValerioRoma:

Thanks to everyone! I'll try these mods. Are "Toybox" and "TabletopTweaks" Aussie linked the same thing? :-)

Woops - meant to link toybox not table top, my bad:
Links to Toybox on Nexus and Github

https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/8

https://github.com/cabarius/ToyBox


That said, Table Top is a solid mod as well.

[ValerioRoma]

Thank you! I Installed Unity Mod Manager and then the Toybox and Respec mods but when I start the game a window say me they failed to load, I should have done everything right so I'm updating the game to 1.2 version and the retry :-)

[ValerioRoma]

Ok yes that was the problem, now they both works :-)

[Aussie 760]

Originally posted by ValerioRoma:

Ok yes that was the problem, now they both works :-)

Welcome to the modding community. Just remember with every patch you will need to check for mod updates. Most major mods are updated within a day - if not hours of a patch coming out.

[Skor]

I've had too many mid game breaking bugs with toybox and respec mods in the past. I'm wary of using them. I don't see why a toggle in the options for 25 point mercs are beyond the pale for Owlcat. I hate to say it, but the NPCs in this game are junk in both mechanics and personality. I'd rather just custom party.

[AdmiralZeech]

Originally posted by Skor:

I've had too many mid game breaking bugs with toybox and respec mods in the past. I'm wary of using them. I don't see why a toggle in the options for 25 point mercs are beyond the pale for Owlcat. I hate to say it, but the NPCs in this game are junk in both mechanics and personality. I'd rather just custom party.

Just use a savegame editor and set the attributes to be whatever you want. No need for mods.

[Aussie 760]

Originally posted by Skor:

I've had too many mid game breaking bugs with toybox and respec mods in the past. I'm wary of using them. I don't see why a toggle in the options for 25 point mercs are beyond the pale for Owlcat. I hate to say it, but the NPCs in this game are junk in both mechanics and personality. I'd rather just custom party.

The only NPC that I don't use the respec mod on is Camilla due to her custom religion.
Other than that I have not noticed any major issues using the dedicated mod. Personal opinions on NPC characters aside, I do agree that the point buy mechanic should be equal for all characters. Why make mercs 20 the player 25 and NPC's varied between 20 (Nenio) and 32 ( Wojiof & Camilla). I give a pass to Arue due to the whole demon thing.

Originally posted by AdmiralZeech:

Originally posted by Skor:

I've had too many mid game breaking bugs with toybox and respec mods in the past. I'm wary of using them. I don't see why a toggle in the options for 25 point mercs are beyond the pale for Owlcat. I hate to say it, but the NPCs in this game are junk in both mechanics and personality. I'd rather just custom party.

Just use a savegame editor and set the attributes to be whatever you want. No need for mods.

Sure you can do that, if you want.