Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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Focused Strike bugged on Titan Fighter?
Okay, so, I made a Titan Fighter, she is using Decimation (a Bardiche, 2-handed weapon, but obviously in one hand, shield in the other)

Here a screenshot: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1128728131004543006/1276960989295804508/image.png?ex=66cb6e18&is=66ca1c98&hm=e23c467cff8552bd29e8c46101b59207aea8390d60e5999810f45c08ae076353&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1128728131004543006/1276961127045267507/image.png?ex=66cb6e39&is=66ca1cb9&hm=5001093b71f81f04b814eabad6505d577da446830d39087a82a5af7770502836&

As you can see the character has both Focused Strike and Power Attack, but Power Attack malus isn't being removed.
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Niculai Aug 24, 2024 @ 10:52am 
I just assumed the Focused Strike language requiring the weapon be wielded in both hands, well requires the weapon to be wielded in both hands. Yes Titan Fighter lets you wield two-handed weapons, but in one hand. So I have to guess Focused Strike is working as intended. Hopefully this isn't read as being crappy, I lack writing skills to make things sound cheerful and pleasant.
Last edited by Niculai; Aug 24, 2024 @ 10:53am
Hex: Onii-Chan Aug 24, 2024 @ 11:11am 
Originally posted by Niculai:
I just assumed the Focused Strike language requiring the weapon be wielded in both hands, well requires the weapon to be wielded in both hands. Yes Titan Fighter lets you wield two-handed weapons, but in one hand. So I have to guess Focused Strike is working as intended. Hopefully this isn't read as being crappy, I lack writing skills to make things sound cheerful and pleasant.

Games usually don't use RAI rules, which is why it is somewhat weird to me. I feel like they just programmed it the way you said - weapon in 2 hands? Good bonk. 1 Hand? Bad Bonk. And Titan Fighter is an exception, so it would make sense.
Deo Aug 24, 2024 @ 11:17am 
"If using a two-handed weapon, or a one-handed weapon with two hands..."

Dunno what's there is not clear.
Hex: Onii-Chan Aug 24, 2024 @ 12:17pm 
Originally posted by Deo:
"If using a two-handed weapon, or a one-handed weapon with two hands..."

Dunno what's there is not clear.

"If going alone, or going together with a friend" does not mean you are also alone while with somebody else. If you want more examples - "If you use an evocation spell, or a spell that deals elemental damage", "If you side with Person A, or side with Person B whom you completed quest C for".

Basically the way it is worded it can either imply that you are using thing A or thing B + condition C, or that you use thing A or B, both with condition C.

Furthermore Titan Fighters are meant to be able to use 2-handed things with 1 hand, why wouldn't that include feats?
Last edited by Hex: Onii-Chan; Aug 24, 2024 @ 12:17pm
Niculai Aug 24, 2024 @ 7:54pm 
Why wouldn't that include feats? I admit I was only looking at it from the Focused Strike language side of things, but I do recommend rereading the Titan Fighter's Giant Weapon Wielder wording, particularly where it says it is treated as a one-handed weapon when determining the effects of...and for all other purposes.
hilburnashua Aug 24, 2024 @ 8:33pm 
Originally posted by Hex: Onii-Chan:
Originally posted by Deo:
"If using a two-handed weapon, or a one-handed weapon with two hands..."

Dunno what's there is not clear.

"If going alone, or going together with a friend" does not mean you are also alone while with somebody else. If you want more examples - "If you use an evocation spell, or a spell that deals elemental damage", "If you side with Person A, or side with Person B whom you completed quest C for".

Basically the way it is worded it can either imply that you are using thing A or thing B + condition C, or that you use thing A or B, both with condition C.

Furthermore Titan Fighters are meant to be able to use 2-handed things with 1 hand, why wouldn't that include feats?

The problem is the wording for Focused Strike assumes a two handed weapon HAS to be used with two hands. And Owlcat probably did the programming to make it so that it doesn't work if the weapon isn't used in two hands, to prevent used a sword and shield. Then along comes Titan Fighter which breaks the rule requiring a two handed weapon to be used with two hands.

The ability (which ISN'T worded the same way the ability is worded in tabletop) was obviously intended to only work when a weapon is used in two hands. I would say it is working as intended by Owlcat.
Shahadem Aug 25, 2024 @ 12:59am 
Just remove the comma and problem solved.

The comma shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Niculai Aug 26, 2024 @ 10:57am 
Just read the Titan Fighter ability, not the feat. The Titan Fighter class feature tells you to treat two-handed weapons as one-handed weapons when using the giant weapon wielding ability.
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Date Posted: Aug 24, 2024 @ 10:48am
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