(Greater) Bull Rush

[Twogs]

Hello everyone,

short question: Is there a way to get (greater) Bull rush without needing to get Power Attack first?

[Chronocide]

Originally posted by Twogs:

Hello everyone,

short question: Is there a way to get (greater) Bull rush without needing to get Power Attack first?

yes. Lore master can pick any combat or wizard feat without requirements (including other feat requirements).

Greater, though, only does what greater says. It doesn't replace lesser bull rush.

[Twogs]

Originally posted by Chronocide:

Originally posted by Twogs:

Hello everyone,

short question: Is there a way to get (greater) Bull rush without needing to get Power Attack first?

yes. Lore master can pick any combat or wizard feat without requirements (including other feat requirements).

Greater, though, only does what greater says. It doesn't replace lesser bull rush.

Yeah I know, I would want both ideally of course.
Just looking for the best option to get there, as power attack is not something I would take otherwise.
Will ook into the Lore Master

[Chronocide]

Originally posted by Twogs:

Originally posted by Chronocide:

yes. Lore master can pick any combat or wizard feat without requirements (including other feat requirements).

Greater, though, only does what greater says. It doesn't replace lesser bull rush.

Yeah I know, I would want both ideally of course.
Just looking for the best option to get there, as power attack is not something I would take otherwise.
Will ook into the Lore Master

Oh, Oracle can do it. But it's not a feat selection for the oracle, it's one of their "relevations". Part of the battle mystery, "maneuver mastery".

Hmm...Don't recall if the kineticist bonus feats require prerequisites or not, but Water should have access to bull rush lesser and greater.

[Chronocide]

Oh, there are also spells that can do a bull rush, if the goal is the effect rather than the feat.

[Twogs]

It's about the feat because I wanna be a Tandem Executioner and he has one of his special feats that allow a free bull rush on a ranged hit (+ a free AoO from the animal companion if the bull rush succeeds).

So anything that buffs bull rush is good. And power attack is wasted on a ranged build.

Also no Lore Master, Tandem Executioner has no spell casting whatsoever.

[Twogs]

Seems like I have to get power attack.

Guess one wasted feat is acceptable.

[Goblin King Jareth]

Water Kineticist can get Bull Rush without PA in two levels but I don't see that working into what you're trying to do.