Barbarian new rage power "COME AND GET ME" is no good...

[Banana]

I try to build Instinctual warrior and make him become COME AND GET ME tank.
Guess what, its... really no good. First, for defenses and AoO, you need a lot of dex, and no 2 handed weapon are using dex, which your damage power is a lot lower than two handed weapon. And even you dual wield, your AoO just only use main weapon.
With Combat reflexes and Ever Ready, your multiples AoO just not not deal enough damage to make it good.
And you need to get Guarded Stance and BEAST TOTEM to get as much AC as possible.
And also, COME AND GET ME, doesnt attract enemies, they wont go for you automatically, they will still going after MC or weaker teammember.
And of course if enemies are big and have reach weapon range, you wont be able to AoO, unless you want to get Lunge or Blow yourself bigger with spells, which will lower your AC.
So far i never able to use Barbarian to be effective tank or kill anything with AoO, the wepaon damage just isnt there.
Hell, even i use mod "Mythic Combat reflexes" with infinity AoO per turn, fencer dueling sword with extra AoO damage, still not able to kill enemy that way.
I guess at the end, killing thing fast with Lethal Stance and Pounce is the best defense.

[Razer]

You can use Elven Curve blade with DEX. It's a finesse weapon.

I think the real downside is that you can get more attacks and AoO by just attacking rather than letting yourself get attacked.

[Parallaxe]

Hello.

This rage power is not meant for tanking. It is meant to give you extra damage output if you are attacked. By counter striking you can gain x extra attacks each turn. It is an offensive and not a defensive tool.

[ChompyRiley]

Originally posted by Parallaxe:

Hello.

This rage power is not meant for tanking. It is meant to give you extra damage output if you are attacked. By counter striking you can gain x extra attacks each turn. It is an offensive and not a defensive tool.

This is it exactly.

[Bystander36]

The best bet for what you are trying to create is a dex based Bloodrager Primalist. Get Curved Elven Blade for your weapon, and pick up 13 str to get Power Attack. You can get the Mage Armor Mythic feat, and a level of Monk Scaled Fist for added armor.

[Banana]

Originally posted by Bystander36:

The best bet for what you are trying to create is a dex based Bloodrager Primalist. Get Curved Elven Blade for your weapon, and pick up 13 str to get Power Attack. You can get the Mage Armor Mythic feat, and a level of Monk Scaled Fist for added armor.

Well...the thing is primalist is still very buggy, won't let you have Primalist choice on level 4 and onward, it seem other people have that problem too.

[Banana]

Originally posted by Razer:

You can use Elven Curve blade with DEX. It's a finesse weapon.

I think the real downside is that you can get more attacks and AoO by just attacking rather than letting yourself get attacked.

Ah...elven curved blade, never thought about that, I always thinking the dueling sword that let you add half mobility to AoO damage.

[gyrofoxx]

I think the Estoc is also two handed, I know it is in the TTRPG, but it's been a moment since I had a build that cared to use it.

[Bystander36]

Originally posted by Banana:

Originally posted by Bystander36:

The best bet for what you are trying to create is a dex based Bloodrager Primalist. Get Curved Elven Blade for your weapon, and pick up 13 str to get Power Attack. You can get the Mage Armor Mythic feat, and a level of Monk Scaled Fist for added armor.

Well...the thing is primalist is still very buggy, won't let you have Primalist choice on level 4 and onward, it seem other people have that problem too.

That's an easy work around. You just have to make sure you have the accept rage effect on before you level.

[Banana]

Originally posted by Bystander36:

Originally posted by Banana:

Well...the thing is primalist is still very buggy, won't let you have Primalist choice on level 4 and onward, it seem other people have that problem too.

That's an easy work around. You just have to make sure you have the accept rage effect on before you level.

Ahhhh now you're talking, but I almost towards the end of the game...
But still, I want to try and see why people think Primalist is op, because it's barbarian and caster true hybrid?

[Bystander36]

Originally posted by Banana:

Originally posted by Bystander36:

That's an easy work around. You just have to make sure you have the accept rage effect on before you level.

Ahhhh now you're talking, but I almost towards the end of the game...
But still, I want to try and see why people think Primalist is op, because it's barbarian and caster true hybrid?

Because you get all the rage powers, mage armor (with the Mythic version giving your mythic level in bonus AC), and Mirror Image that can be cast as a swift action. And because it isn't limited to Chaos alignments, you can pick up a level monk scaled fist to get bonus AC from your charisma. Add in some added perks from the bloodline, such as an added attack, and it's way better than a Barb.

Mirror Image is probably the biggest advantage. It lets you survive against the targets who pretty much can't be tanked by AC.

[mbradtke]

primalist is pretty good but barb got the flesheater archetype, what is also not bad (:

[Banana]

Originally posted by mbradtke:

primalist is pretty good but barb got the flesheater archetype, what is also not bad (:

Is flesheater not bad? Oh yeah seem like a unique class .. it's time to try something different.