I'm stupid ...

[=M$= Oroberus]

... just want to shortly rant about being stupid enough to take dazzling display while planning to later go for Dreadful Carnage while my character (Elemental Engine) will never reach 15 Str and therefor Dreadful Carnage will never be a possible pick ... playing on Core btw so no respeccing except I change it to custom and therefor invalidate this run for achievements ... yay

Thanks for your attention

[Uzkin]

Stat bonuses from gear used to count for feats, not sure if that's still the case. With a +6 str belt and +4 profane str helm from abyss, you might reach 15 str.

Edit. Also, there's a kineticist bonus feat for Dreadful Carnage under the fire element, not sure if Elemental Engine can get that (haven't really played as kineticist). If that's an option for EE you won't need any prerequisite stats.

[=M$= Oroberus]

Originally posted by Uzkin:

Stat bonuses from gear used to count for feats, not sure if that's still the case. With a +6 str belt and +4 profane str helm from abyss, you might reach 15 str.

Nope, they don't do so anymore even if they still would, I'd still need Power Attack and a BAB that I won't be able to reach with Elemental Engine ... welp ... let's roll back to the Second Floor of the Grey Garrison at the 18 hour mark ... while I'm right now sieging Drezen at the 33 hour mark ...yay -.-

[Uzkin]

Copying my edit from above here:

Also, there's a kineticist bonus feat for Dreadful Carnage under the fire element, not sure if Elemental Engine can get that (haven't really played as kineticist). If that's an option for EE you won't need any prerequisite stats.

[=M$= Oroberus]

Originally posted by Uzkin:

Copying my edit from above here:

Also, there's a kineticist bonus feat for Dreadful Carnage under the fire element, not sure if Elemental Engine can get that (haven't really played as kineticist). If that's an option for EE you won't need any prerequisite stats.

Yeah it still exists and you sure about prerequisits not needed? I mean, this would be cool and just as ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up at the same time because in this case I could still get Dreadful Carnage but would still have 'lost' 1 feat as in this case I didn't need to pick Dazzling Display first

[Uzkin]

Not 100% sure as I haven't played kineticist much, but it *should* not need them. Do you have a higher-level save? You could buy a merc and test it.

[=M$= Oroberus]

Originally posted by Uzkin:

Not 100% sure as I haven't played kineticist much, but it *should* not need them. Do you have a higher-level save? You could buy a merc and test it.

Nope, Grey Garrison at lvl 5 is the highest level save at which I've not messed it up and as I'm in Drezen right now, not possible to quickly check with a merc as the last save I got at which it would have been possible isn't high enough of a lvl either to test it on a merc


EDIT:
Used another high level save on another character though and ... Dreadful Carnage via Kineticist Bonus Feat does not require BAB or Str or Power Attack but it DOES require Dazzling Display ... it really feels like Owlcat is designing the menues and displays just to troll the players xD

Thanks for making me aware that I could just give it a try on a merc :D

EDIT 2: But now I'm feeling even more stupid to not have thought of this on my own xD

[Uzkin]

No problem, glad it worked out. :)

[=M$= Oroberus]

Originally posted by Uzkin:

No problem, glad it worked out. :)

Before Starting my Inquisitor-Lich-Run after completing this Kineticist-Demon one I'll run the build through Inevitable Excess and the forums *g*

[Razer]

Wait did they finally fix equipment being allowed for feat requirement?

[canuck250]

Originally posted by Uzkin:

Stat bonuses from gear used to count for feats, not sure if that's still the case.

Stats bonus from gear does work for feats, most common ones I use are +int helm for pets so they can learn kung-fu and teamwork feats. Or going 13 dex on a dual wield str build, with a +6 belt you can hit 19 dex for all the twf feats.

For elemental engine kines, +con gear will also add to your max burn amount. Since EE want to be at max burn, this can put you into very squishy territory. What I like to do is, before rest, take off all +con gear, then putting it back on in the morning, get a lower max burn but all the +con modifiers.

Kineticist have many many funny interactions, their ranged elemental attack is considered a natural attack for example you would want the buff magic fang. However their blade attack is a weapon, so would need the magic weapon buff instead.