How to respec into lockpicking, mobility, camouflage?

[shwarmizzle]

Hi all!
After losing Wolf in Act 2, I no longer have a character that specializes in lockpicking, mobility checks and camouflage during rest.
My current party is:
- main character two-handed fighter
- Regill armiger-hellknight
- Lann zen archer
- Seelah paladin
- Sosiel cleric.
Which of these characters do I respec and which options do I select when respeccing (I haven't respecced yet and not sure how to do it at this point in the game, as I'm at the Drezen assault)?

[Glyph]

You'll get Woljif back sooner than you think if you're already assaulting Drezen. My advice outside of that is to make a merc rogue and use that.

[Immortal Reaver]

Lann for mobility and Stealth. Seelah for Trickery.
If you want to add 6th member for now, Camelia is good for Trickery and Stealth.

[Axetwin]

I second using Camellia for your trickery slot or using a custom merc.

[hilburnashua]

Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:

Lann for mobility and Stealth. Seelah for Trickery.
If you want to add 6th member for now, Camelia is good for Trickery and Stealth.

Seelah, the low Dexterity Paladin for Trickery? Guess you can take off her armor each time but that would be a hassle.

[Immortal Reaver]

Originally posted by hilburnashua:

Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:

Lann for mobility and Stealth. Seelah for Trickery.
If you want to add 6th member for now, Camelia is good for Trickery and Stealth.

Seelah, the low Dexterity Paladin for Trickery? Guess you can take off her armor each time but that would be a hassle.

You do not need to take off her armor. Only Athletics, Mobility and Stealth are affected by armor.
Also she gets proficiency in Trickery skill from her background. So that is plus, it somewhat makes up for lower DEX.

[dataseer21]

Mobility is not that necessary most times. Stealth or camouflage is good in that you can avoid encounters. It is a Quality of life skill that isn't completely necessary. Trickery however is a must. You could always try a mercenary. Camellia has pretty good trickery if you can stand her. Maybe you kicked her out. Thing is spoilers You get woljif after drezen and usually for me after I beat a couple of missions. But then you get another character that can do trickery . They really want to force you to use camellia so you can say 'aw man they tricked me' later. For mercenaries there are the seeker classes which seem to be the only classes that give you a trickery bonus so strangely they can be the best at trickery. If memory serves oracle and sorceror get seeker classes.

Of your party the answer is simple though. Lann has the most dex along with regill. Lann doesn't use armor that gets in the way. But you are already in drezen for the most part. So when you level up lann give him a level in trickery. This will take you out of auto level.

[Immortal Reaver]

Originally posted by dataseer21:

They really want to force you to use camellia so you can say 'aw man they tricked me' later. For mercenaries there are the seeker classes which seem to be the only classes that give you a trickery bonus so strangely they can be the best at trickery. If memory serves oracle and sorceror get seeker classes.

And Archeologist. It gets bonuses and always roll 10 ability.

[hilburnashua]

Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:

Originally posted by hilburnashua:

Seelah, the low Dexterity Paladin for Trickery? Guess you can take off her armor each time but that would be a hassle.

You do not need to take off her armor. Only Athletics, Mobility and Stealth are affected by armor.
Also she gets proficiency in Trickery skill from her background. So that is plus, it somewhat makes up for lower DEX.

Hunh, I didn't know that Lockpicking in WotR didn't apply an armor check. It does in the Unchained rules. Learn something new every day.

[pete3great]

Originally posted by hilburnashua:

Hunh, I didn't know that Lockpicking in WotR didn't apply an armor check. It does in the Unchained rules. Learn something new every day.

There's a lot about this dang game to know. I'm always learning something new too.

[jonnin]

camillia has skill focus and a stupidly high dex, is why her, combined with her taking ranks in it at char creation. But .. if you missed it, seelah has trickery from her background.
Other than those two, ... about 85% of my characters pick it up as a background trait just because these games LOVE to put you all by yourself for a bit or with one other non-rogue companion and there is invariably locked doors or traps before you can get your guys back. I just expect it.
other ideas.. a level of rogue-> rowdy isn't too amiss on a 2h user or archer, like your main character to pick up vital strike and with a feat, a couple (three maybe?) of die of sneak attack can be had for the 1 level and use that to level trickery with all your points for that level should get you a decent score. A buff to die rolls like a hex and you are set to pop most locks for a time.

with your group... rowdy up lan and pick up mythic ranged cleave ... you will thank me.

[hilburnashua]

Rowdy rogue is a completely busted archetype. I keep thinking about playing around with a Legend build with Rowdy and Vivasectionlist but I don't want the game to explode.

[Brother Santodes]

60d6 is just 210 x4. sound funny but that's it.

edit: doesn't stack for some reason it's just 40d6 1 time like 450 barely buffed most is not from the rowdy special. normal attacks are better i guess better.