Bonus types

[Space Cowboy]

So far I found 3 items which give me specific bonusses. One is deflection, the other is luck, another one is insight. However I can't really find these bonus types anywhere in my character sheet or the encyclopedia.

Did I just miss the location within the interface where explanations about these bonus types and what they do can be found (In that case it would be nice if you could direct me where to find them)? Or do I have to search a wiki for those?

[Space Cowboy]

Originally posted by John Doe:

The bonus from the same type doesn't stack, usually, meaning if you have 2 bonus from insight applied on the same stat, only highest apply.
bonus of different types stack, meaning insight and luck stack.

There are few exceptions, the un-typed bonus like "other" will always stack, also racial bonus will stack as well, but it's rare.

That's not my question. I want to know what these specific bonusses (and others) actually do and if I can find this information somewhere in the game or if I have to search a wiki for that.

[Space Cowboy]

Hmm, apparently not. In the "bonus types" entry only "size" get's linked to an explanation. Every other bonus type remains unexplained. Bit of an oversight, imo. Would be nice if they'd patch in explanations of all potential bonus types and what they actually do ingame. It always kinda sucks having to leave the game to search online for basic information.

[Space Cowboy]

Okay, I found *something* but it's incomplete. Under "Armor Class and saving throws" the pop-up tooltips show which equipment bonusses apply to Armor Class, Fortitude, Reflex and Will. However there's no value breakdown for Flat-footed AC and Touch AC. As far as I know I can only see what influences these by equipping and unequipping my equipment and see if that changed the total value of these bonusses.

Owlcat, please fix this - as I understand from some tutorials I've watched, especially Flat-footed is quite important and I want to know what influences this to make good equipment choices.

Edit: And this should be in the item description as well - after all I need to know what an item does, BEFORE I equip it - not just after that. Otherwise I won't be able to know what's good when buying from merchants or just finetuning my equipment.

[Elizabello]

Originally posted by Space Cowboy:

Okay, I found *something* but it's incomplete. Under "Armor Class and saving throws" the pop-up tooltips show which equipment bonusses apply to Armor Class, Fortitude, Reflex and Will. However there's no value breakdown for Flat-footed AC and Touch AC. As far as I know I can only see what influences these by equipping and unequipping my equipment and see if that changed the total value of these bonusses.

Owlcat, please fix this - as I understand from some tutorials I've watched, especially Flat-footed is quite important and I want to know what influences this to make good equipment choices.

Flat footed AC is your Armor Class minus Dexterity bonus.
Touch AC is your Armor Class minus Armor bonus, Shield bonus and Natural Armor bonus.
Its explained in the game.

[Drake]

Originally posted by Space Cowboy:

Originally posted by John Doe:

The bonus from the same type doesn't stack, usually, meaning if you have 2 bonus from insight applied on the same stat, only highest apply.
bonus of different types stack, meaning insight and luck stack.

There are few exceptions, the un-typed bonus like "other" will always stack, also racial bonus will stack as well, but it's rare.

That's not my question. I want to know what these specific bonusses (and others) actually do and if I can find this information somewhere in the game or if I have to search a wiki for that.

Bonus types like deflection, luck etc. Don't do anything, they are just there to prevent stacking.

Like if you have a +2 luck bonus to AC, it will just prevent you to stack another +1 luck bonus to AC.

[Space Cowboy]

Originally posted by Elizabello:

Originally posted by Space Cowboy:

Okay, I found *something* but it's incomplete. Under "Armor Class and saving throws" the pop-up tooltips show which equipment bonusses apply to Armor Class, Fortitude, Reflex and Will. However there's no value breakdown for Flat-footed AC and Touch AC. As far as I know I can only see what influences these by equipping and unequipping my equipment and see if that changed the total value of these bonusses.

Owlcat, please fix this - as I understand from some tutorials I've watched, especially Flat-footed is quite important and I want to know what influences this to make good equipment choices.

Flat footed AC is your Armor Class minus Dexterity bonus.
Touch AC is your Armor Class minus Armor bonus, Shield bonus and Natural Armor bonus.
Its explained in the game.

Yes, but the fact that "deflection bonus to AC" increases flatfooted is not explained in the game. You are misconstruing my question.

[Drake]

Originally posted by Space Cowboy:

Originally posted by Elizabello:

Flat footed AC is your Armor Class minus Dexterity bonus.
Touch AC is your Armor Class minus Armor bonus, Shield bonus and Natural Armor bonus.
Its explained in the game.

Yes, but the fact that "deflection bonus to AC" increases flatfooted is not explained in the game. You are misconstruing my question.

Why wouldn't it ?

Flat footed just means you don't get dex related AC bonus.

[Space Cowboy]

Originally posted by Drake:

Originally posted by Space Cowboy:

That's not my question. I want to know what these specific bonusses (and others) actually do and if I can find this information somewhere in the game or if I have to search a wiki for that.

Bonus types like deflection, luck etc. Don't do anything, they are just there to prevent stacking.

Like if you have a +2 luck bonus to AC, it will just prevent you to stack another +1 luck bonus to AC.

So, do all extra AC bonusses automatically give you +X to all AC types? (Armor Class, Flatfooted and Touch)?

[Immortal Reaver]

Check the AC screen. You have 3 AC values on screen right click on them and see what you get on them when you get bonus, that is easiest way to check.

[Space Cowboy]

Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:

Check the AC screen. You have 3 AC values on screen right click on them and see what you get on them when you get bonus, that is easiest way to check.

I did and there were still some confusions left for me but it got cleared up by someone on the discord, so I'm good now. At least when it comes to this part of the system.

[Drake]

It's not 3 different types of AC. AC is AC, it's just that for ease of calculation, they put the regular AC with touch AC and flat Footed AC, like in pnp sheets, so that you don't have to remove the dex bonus for flat footed and the armor bonus from touch AC, it's already computed for you.