Mythic Indecision (Angel Vs. Azata)

[ChompyRiley]

I'm one of those people who outsources their decision-making ability. So the issue is. I love the Azata path, I really genuinely do. I can't think of a path I enjoy more. But I'm trying to branch out, such as it is.

I typically play a chaotic good caster type character who isn't afraid to call out the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of the people around him. I ABSOLUTELY attacked the Midnight Fane early, let Minhago go, forced the land to bloom.

And Azata just *FEELS* better. It really feels like you and your free crusaders are a last desperate alliance of heroes fighting to retake the Worldwound and restore the land. Aivu is great. My uppity little cookie dragon.

My only real complaint is, as you may have guessed, is that Azata isn't... Well it's not as serious as I think it could have been. Your free crusaders act like they're on a holiday, not saving the world. I'm not saying it needed to be grim, or even as serious as Angel or Aeon (Aeon being my most despised path). But it would have been nice if they could have put their energy towards something a little more useful than an *edible sculpture*.

But I also feel like some of the things that Azata could do could have been done by other mythic paths. Angel especially.

And I do want to branch out and especially I want to be able to rescue my inheribro, which I hear you can do on the Angel path, as well as bathe the realm of demons with unholy power and burn it all in righteous fury.

So at the end of this rambling spiel it comes down to this. I need someone to convince me. Tell me why you went for Angel over Azata. Tell me why I should pick Azata over Angel. I'm riding a knife's edge and could tip either way. So I need someone to give me that last little shove. Do I save Mary Jane or a bus full of innocent schoolchildren?! WHO DOES NUMBER TWO WORK FOR?!

[Drake]

Go angel if you've already done azata.

[revan1229]

.....Play one. Do another playthrough and play the other.

[Elizabello]

In your choice between Azata and Trickster - i reccomend Trickster. You can save arguably more people as a trickster and also have a lot of fun while at it. (Angel is for evil people, who find lich and swarm too restricting)

[Soul]

for me there are only two choices....

Azata mythic path or not Azata mythic path....

Aivu is too cute for me to pass up on....

[Schlumpsha]

When in doubt

go Swarm-that-Walks

[His Divine Shadow]

Angels in pathfinder aren't restricted to one specific alignment and can fall under any good alignment. And righteous fury.

[Triple G]

I would actually prefer Azata (or Trickster) as well, if i wanted to represent myself more in the game, but actually Angel fits the theme pretty good. And for now i started as lawful good, but ended up being neutral good, as the lawful options probably suit the lawful evil characters, because the evil options don´t fit those.

Imho they would need to have more choices, when You have combined alignments. The lawful good choice should be different from the lawful evil choice - or the lawful good choice should also be different from the chaotic good choice - as else it doesn´t make sense to have these alignments, when You can never choose an option which fits them - while i understand that it´s mostly just flavor stuff...

And else i guess everybody has his preferences. If i play the game a second time it´ll be demon, because i want to know how they implemented it. Lich sounds also good because of different companions.

Else all of the mythic paths look interesting (perhaps except for dragon - but only because i don´t think these big entities work pretty well, as they usually block the way, or maybe swarm that walks if it means that You basically have to play solo without interactive companions.)

[ChompyRiley]

Originally posted by Drake:

Go angel if you've already done azata.

I've done both to some extent.

Originally posted by His Divine Shadow:

Angels in pathfinder aren't restricted to one specific alignment and can fall under any good alignment. And righteous fury.

In this game they can be lawful neutral, neutral good, or lawful good.

Originally posted by Schlumpsha:

When in doubt

go Swarm-that-Walks

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.

Originally posted by Soul:

for me there are only two choices....

Azata mythic path or not Azata mythic path....

Aivu is too cute for me to pass up on....

See that's my problem ;_;

[ChompyRiley]

Also, Angel can romance Galfrey

[Stussy]

Do both/all. Make a save at the end of act 2 if you don't want to repeat them and just reload and pick a different path.

I also do not like picking anything aside from azata since you miss out on aivu and that floating island plus the superpowers are strong, but I'll still do other playthroughs to see how they feel. Aeon I feel like wouldn't fit me but apparantly it changes up the story quite a bit so it'd be interesting to see.

I feel like you might like trickster though if you want to do something different, since that has shenanigans.

[Triple G]

Originally posted by ChompyRiley:

Also, Angel can romance Galfrey

That´s something i wouldn´t make use of. Having party members in the party, who talk about something, or add a comment, or do some chatter in camp is one thing, but romancing a NPC is something else, which i usually try to avoid. I mean i like the idea to become one with a game, as this is the end goal of any serious gamer, but i need to add that this has limits. I´m there to have some fun, maybe to fulfill the goal of the game, but not to have a "serious" relationship with some virtual entity...

I don´t think it´s an argument to play Angel.

Imho the thing about playing Angel above Azata is that You need to know how to unlock the Azata path in the first place. Same as e.g. Trickster. You could easily miss these options without looking how it´s exactly unlocked, and only few people now what some "Azata" should be, while "Angel" is pretty clear. It´s Michael Landon. So Azata feels artificial, because You looked up a guide how to unlock it. And if the argument is some Aizu or certain abilities - it´s not that You feel like being Azata - it´s like that You want to take advantage of the abilities and features it has. Which is evil. Chaotic evil. :o)

[fox5s]

Originally posted by His Divine Shadow:

Angels in pathfinder aren't restricted to one specific alignment and can fall under any good alignment. And righteous fury.

Pretty sure Angels are LG, Archons are NG, and Azata are CG in Pathfinder. But I'll doublecheck and get back to ya.

Edit: I was slightly incorrect. Angels are NG and Archons are LG. Interesting that the Angel path is treated as LG when it should be NG.

Edit again: reading more, Angles can be any of the three Good alignments. Huh. Weird. Gonna have to read more about Archons then.

Edit again again: I found the source of my confusion. Angels are all three alignments, Archons are LG, Agathions are LN, and Azata are CG. Angels get a weird exception and can be whatever good they feel like.

[Soul]

Originally posted by fox5s:

Originally posted by His Divine Shadow:

Angels in pathfinder aren't restricted to one specific alignment and can fall under any good alignment. And righteous fury.

Pretty sure Angels are LG, Archons are NG, and Azata are CG in Pathfinder. But I'll doublecheck and get back to ya.

Edit: I was slightly incorrect. Angels are NG and Archons are LG. Interesting that the Angel path is treated as LG when it should be NG.

Edit again: reading more, Angles can be any of the three Good alignments. Huh. Weird. Gonna have to read more about Archons then.

Edit again again: I found the source of my confusion. Angels are all three alignments, Archons are LG, Agathions are LN, and Azata are CG. Angels get a weird exception and can be whatever good they feel like.

on fextralife in the mythic path category it shows a chart of all the mythic paths and what their "core" alignment is.... as well as the deviations that are acceptable for each...

angel mythic path is LAWFUL GOOD as its core.... aeon mythic path is LAWFUL NEUTRAL as its core.... and azata mythic path is ChAoTiC gOoD as its core....

basically angels and devils are both lawful.... just split between good and evil... but respectful of the law....

and azata and demons are both chaotic... again split only by good and evil....

and aeon is pretty much a cosmic judge.... so its alignment is routed in LAWFUL NEUTRAL....

at least thats my interpretation on it all....

[fox5s]

Originally posted by Soul:

on fextralife in the mythic path category it shows a chart of all the mythic paths and what their "core" alignment is.... as well as the deviations that are acceptable for each...

angel mythic path is LAWFUL GOOD as its core.... aeon mythic path is LAWFUL NEUTRAL as its core.... and azata mythic path is ChAoTiC gOoD as its core....

basically angels and devils are both lawful.... just split between good and evil... but respectful of the law....

and azata and demons are both chaotic... again split only by good and evil....

and aeon is pretty much a cosmic judge.... so its alignment is routed in LAWFUL NEUTRAL....

at least thats my interpretation on it all....

I was talking more about the setting rather than the Mythic Path itself. Yes, the Angelic Path is LG and Azata is CG. But you can drift any of the Paths a step away from their 'intended' alignment and be totally fine.

[Soul]

Originally posted by fox5s:

Originally posted by Soul:

on fextralife in the mythic path category it shows a chart of all the mythic paths and what their "core" alignment is.... as well as the deviations that are acceptable for each...

angel mythic path is LAWFUL GOOD as its core.... aeon mythic path is LAWFUL NEUTRAL as its core.... and azata mythic path is ChAoTiC gOoD as its core....

basically angels and devils are both lawful.... just split between good and evil... but respectful of the law....

and azata and demons are both chaotic... again split only by good and evil....

and aeon is pretty much a cosmic judge.... so its alignment is routed in LAWFUL NEUTRAL....

at least thats my interpretation on it all....

I was talking more about the setting rather than the Mythic Path itself. Yes, the Angelic Path is LG and Azata is CG. But you can drift any of the Paths a step away from their 'intended' alignment and be totally fine.

thats what I meant when I said "core".... the chart thing I mentioned showed check boxes of each mythic path and alignment deviations.... with the "core" one being checked differently than the deviations from em...

like aeon for instance has lawful good, lawful neutral, true neutral, and lawful evil with check marks... but only lawful neutral has a check mark with brackets around it implying its the one that is the main one that all the other options can deviate from... thats what I meant by calling it a "core"... maybe another word might have fit that better.... lol....