Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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Belegc Nov 22, 2023 @ 11:21pm
Few questions regarding new Mythic Feats and Abilities
Hi All.

I've been testing (using Inevitable Excess DLC) several builds using the new Mythic feats and abilities (and more) and I am trying to find an explanation for the below. I would appreciate it if someone explained it to me :). Unfortunately I am not next to my PC so no screenshots.

1) Mythic Inspiration - this ability should improve all the "Inspire" abilities by 1 + 1 every 3 mythic levels after it. so 1,4,7,10 = 4 in total. Court Poet Insightful Contemplation is 6 Int+Cha at level 16. together it should be 10. why is it 14? not that I am complaining...

2) Mythic Heavy Armor - Avoidance - this should give you 1/2 STR AC instead of max Dex. however, when I have tested it on an Angel 19 Tower Shield Specialist/1 Paladin (meaning all TSS and armor training) I got the bonus but also malus (-5) in the tool tip. as far as I understand this should only replace max dex with 1/2STR but should not reduce anything.

3) Tower Shield Specialist Dex training - a 19TSS gives you +4 max dex to armor and +6 to tower shield max dex AC. so a mithril full plate = 7 max dex and Tower shield = 8 (they've fixed it a few patches ago and it doesn't add everything to max dex as it used to). since max dex is always the lowest, it is 7. so realistically, you are capped to 7 or 8 (there is one mithril tower shield but its for evil-aligned chars only for some reason). this severely harms the entire class and thats even without the mythic ability above.

4) Mythic Heavy Armor - Endurance - its DR/- is only stacking with the highest source of DR/- (DR/- stacking was fixed a few patches ago). so I don't really see the point of that.

EDIT: 5) something that has bothered me for a while. I have the game on Steam and completed several playthroughs - how do I delete these chars from appearing on the import screen to the DLC? my cloud saves always brings them back.

thank you,

Belegc
Last edited by Belegc; Nov 22, 2023 @ 11:42pm
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oburec Nov 23, 2023 @ 1:00am 
Originally posted by Belegc:

2) Mythic Heavy Armor - Avoidance - this should give you 1/2 STR AC instead of max Dex. however, when I have tested it on an Angel 19 Tower Shield Specialist/1 Paladin (meaning all TSS and armor training) I got the bonus but also malus (-5) in the tool tip. as far as I understand this should only replace max dex with 1/2STR but should not reduce anything.

As far as I understood that's just a quirk of the way they implemented half-scaling. I think it replaces full DEX scaling with full STR scaling (that's the bonus) and then the half STR scaling malus brings the total down to 1/2 STR.

Originally posted by Belegc:
4) Mythic Heavy Armor - Endurance - its DR/- is only stacking with the highest source of DR/- (DR/- stacking was fixed a few patches ago). so I don't really see the point of that.

Someone mentioned that DR from this feat only stacks with DR from the mythic tower shield feat. It didn't stack with any DR that, for example, Throne Keeper provides (neither 3/- from being adamantine full plate, nor 10/- from the item property) in my tests. Indeed, it makes the feat broken and useless.
Last edited by oburec; Nov 23, 2023 @ 1:01am
RandomDude2018 Nov 23, 2023 @ 2:15am 
About Mythic Inspiration. It's OP above and beyond. I don't care about casters. Never did. It gives higher AB from smites, pala lvl 11 ability and higher saves. Going CHA was the meta for any martial and now even more.

The way it works it increases the "ability" by one step. So 1 step equals +2 morale to INT/CHA. That is why it's +14 now.
Last edited by RandomDude2018; Nov 23, 2023 @ 2:18am
Belegc Nov 23, 2023 @ 2:29am 
Thank you guys for the answers! I understand it now.
Indeed Mythic inspiration is very OP - 14 Cha/INT (doubled with the morale ring so 28Cha/Int in total for 1 mythic ability and ring) makes Court Poet a must in pretty much any higher difficulty level party.
I wish we got a companion for that, you can of course multiclass the existing companions (Seelah for instance) but they are not very optimized. no "native support" e.g Skalds/Bards/Alchemists/inquisitors/BFT companions..
MjKorz Nov 23, 2023 @ 3:16am 
Originally posted by Belegc:
I wish we got a companion for that
Make Lady Konomi playable.
Belegc Nov 23, 2023 @ 4:27am 
Originally posted by MjKorz:
Originally posted by Belegc:
I wish we got a companion for that
Make Lady Konomi playable.

how?

Originally posted by John Doe:
Originally posted by Belegc:
Thank you guys for the answers! I understand it now.
Indeed Mythic inspiration is very OP - 14 Cha/INT (doubled with the morale ring so 28Cha/Int in total for 1 mythic ability and ring) makes Court Poet a must in pretty much any higher difficulty level party.
I wish we got a companion for that, you can of course multiclass the existing companions (Seelah for instance) but they are not very optimized. no "native support" e.g Skalds/Bards/Alchemists/inquisitors/BFT companions..
well, there is the lich companion... XD

very poorly built from what I remember, all the lich companions are...
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