Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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Logarr Nov 21, 2023 @ 2:14pm
Pillar of Skulls broken?
Am I the only Lich unable to communicate with the Pillar of Skulls after last patch? I've tried multiple saves and even loaded old saves to rebuild it. It's not possible to target the pillar hence no dialogue can be initiated.
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ProofTheory Nov 21, 2023 @ 2:26pm 
I cannot either. Also, my skeleton companion lost most of his gear!. It is my first playthrough and I have sunk so much time in this game...
Last edited by ProofTheory; Nov 21, 2023 @ 2:30pm
Logarr Nov 21, 2023 @ 2:47pm 
Oh well, no more Grave Guards then. Guess it wasnt that big a part of the Lich path experience :p

The Lich Mythic path has sadly been very broken since launch and despite having reported the same bugs over and over and over, they never fix it. Things just get worse apparently.

The skeleton champion needs a total overhaul. It is so bugged and messed up. Its weapon focus choices are still based on YOUR character class (often caster based, so poor choices for the champion). Most regular bonus feats are plain useless, either cause the champion already get those feats, which you have no chance of knowing, or because you cannot pick a weapon for feats like weapon focus, improved critical etc.

Path of the Righteous had such a huge potential but the execution is just dreadful. Baldurs Gate 3 wasnt perfect at launch, but Larion listens to the players and get things fixed. Owlcat? Not so much.
Schlumpsha Nov 21, 2023 @ 2:57pm 
Judging from the notes, Lich saw the most changes out of all mythic paths from this patch. Skeleton champion was reworked and Staunton's undead build was switched up quite a bit as well. Then there are new Lich spells we can sling around.

Reading that Staunton's changes at the very least require a new playthrough (or a save before recruiting him) to take effect, I'd just restart another playthrough,
Necessary  [developer] Nov 21, 2023 @ 3:00pm 
Originally posted by Scyrack:
Am I the only Lich unable to communicate with the Pillar of Skulls after last patch? I've tried multiple saves and even loaded old saves to rebuild it. It's not possible to target the pillar hence no dialogue can be initiated.


Originally posted by ProofTheory:
I cannot either. Also, my skeleton companion lost most of his gear!. It is my first playthrough and I have sunk so much time in this game...
If you don't use any mods (if you do, try to uninstall them fisrt), report the bug in the game with Alt+B, please
Logarr Nov 21, 2023 @ 3:07pm 
Originally posted by Schlumpsha:
Judging from the notes, Lich saw the most changes out of all mythic paths from this patch. Skeleton champion was reworked and Staunton's undead build was switched up quite a bit as well. Then there are new Lich spells we can sling around.

Reading that Staunton's changes at the very least require a new playthrough (or a save before recruiting him) to take effect, I'd just restart another playthrough,

Skeleton champion still have the old bugs and screw ups. They might have given it a graphical update and moved some stats around, but that was never an issue. You do lose all its gear though so there is that.

How do you know Staunton's undead build had been upgraded quite a bit? No one will be able to see him, unless someone has a save where they just talked to the Pillar of Skulls but still didn't raise Staunton, which is usualy the first thing you do.

Feel free to start a new game and return here in about 50 hours and tell us if the Pillar og Skulls are working or not. Like I already said, rebuilding it didnt help and it wasnt working across multiple save games. No mods.
Logarr Nov 21, 2023 @ 3:12pm 
Originally posted by Necessary:
Originally posted by Scyrack:
Am I the only Lich unable to communicate with the Pillar of Skulls after last patch? I've tried multiple saves and even loaded old saves to rebuild it. It's not possible to target the pillar hence no dialogue can be initiated.


Originally posted by ProofTheory:
I cannot either. Also, my skeleton companion lost most of his gear!. It is my first playthrough and I have sunk so much time in this game...
If you don't use any mods (if you do, try to uninstall them fisrt), report the bug in the game with Alt+B, please

Never used mods, not even once.

I have lost track how many times I have reported the same bugs over and over using Alt+B during the past 3 years. None of them has ever been fixed. So I don't waste time on that anymore.

Anyways, I just really wanted to see the new Lich related updates in action cause they looked really interesting. But as always, it ends with a huge let-down. Its such a shame.
Schlumpsha Nov 21, 2023 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by Scyrack:
Skeleton champion still have the old bugs and screw ups. They might have given it a graphical update and moved some stats around, but that was never an issue. You do lose all its gear though so there is that.
Mythic skeleton companion rework;
Not seeing anything about graphics here.

Originally posted by Scyrack:
How do you know Staunton's undead build had been upgraded quite a bit?
By reading.
Undead Staunton Vhane has his characteristics and build changed (only for a new games or for the saves before he joins);
Last edited by Schlumpsha; Nov 21, 2023 @ 3:13pm
Logarr Nov 21, 2023 @ 3:23pm 
Originally posted by Schlumpsha:
Originally posted by Scyrack:
Skeleton champion still have the old bugs and screw ups. They might have given it a graphical update and moved some stats around, but that was never an issue. You do lose all its gear though so there is that.
Mythic skeleton companion rework;
Not seeing anything about graphics here.

How do you know Staunton's undead build had been upgraded quite a bit?
By reading.
Undead Staunton Vhane has his characteristics and build changed (only for a new games or for the saves before he joins);
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You mentioned that Staunton was switched up quite a bit. Patch notes says nothing in that regard. And if you actually read the patch notes, you would notice that we would be able to see the new characteristics, if we recruit Staunton in already existing games. Which sadly isnt possible cause the Pillar of Skulls is broken.

I could test the skeleton champion but did so mostly to see if old bugs were fixed, which they sadly werent. Didnt notice any of the new changes, but thought the graphics looked different and some stats might have been adjusted. As ProofTheory did mention, you do lose all the champions gear sadly. Feel free to share if you notice what else has changed. I think we all read the patch notes, hence the reason we're even discussing these things now.
Schlumpsha Nov 21, 2023 @ 3:55pm 
Originally posted by Scyrack:
You mentioned that Staunton was switched up quite a bit. Patch notes says nothing in that regard. And if you actually read the patch notes, you would notice that we would be able to see the new characteristics, if we recruit Staunton in already existing games. Which sadly isnt possible cause the Pillar of Skulls is broken.
Switched up, as in seeing changes, yes. Which as you know the patch notes indeed speak of. That's something we can be certain of even if the Pillar of Skulls is currently facing a bug.


Originally posted by Scyrack:
I could test the skeleton champion but did so mostly to see if old bugs were fixed, which they sadly werent. Didnt notice any of the new changes, but thought the graphics looked different and some stats might have been adjusted. As ProofTheory did mention, you do lose all the champions gear sadly.
Suffice to say it's hard to think of them as intended behaviors. Perhaps having similar origins as to why Staunton's changes don't take place if he's already in your party. Or just plain coding oversights. Wouldn't be the first new bug after an update rolled out.
reidj062 Nov 21, 2023 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by Scyrack:
Am I the only Lich unable to communicate with the Pillar of Skulls after last patch? I've tried multiple saves and even loaded old saves to rebuild it. It's not possible to target the pillar hence no dialogue can be initiated.

My biggest bug was that the skeleton didn't transition between maps. Reloading seemed to fix. Yes, the feats also didn't make a lot of sense and were limited in a bizarre manner.
Logarr Nov 21, 2023 @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by reidj062:
Originally posted by Scyrack:
Am I the only Lich unable to communicate with the Pillar of Skulls after last patch? I've tried multiple saves and even loaded old saves to rebuild it. It's not possible to target the pillar hence no dialogue can be initiated.

My biggest bug was that the skeleton didn't transition between maps. Reloading seemed to fix. Yes, the feats also didn't make a lot of sense and were limited in a bizarre manner.

In regards of the skeleton changes, it seems they have changed the feats of the "base classes" (Executioner, Assassin, Marksman and Vanguard). The feat selection now looks very much like those you find on most recommended builds online (Shatter defense, outflank, etc.). The builds are much stronger/cheesier now. They do force you into a specific weapon choice now, like the executioner feats being linked with falchions, which limits the players freedom of choice.

But these updates perfectly illustrates the problem with Owlbears approach. This absolutely nails it. While they did change some of the most basic aspects of the Skeleton Champion, they completely missed the details. Its like they always cook a wonderful dish, but then choose to serve it in a toilet bowl. Once again, they completely ignored how the Skeletal Champion levels up. That most of the class choices (fighter, bard, cleric etc.) are so poorly implementet. Its like someone just threw them in there, and just enabled everything without ever testing it. Most choises related to these classes either contributes with nothing at all or makes absolutely no sense. Like improved critical with no weapon or weapon focus limited to wizard weapon proficiencies. Honestly, the skeletal champion would be much more enjoyable, if those class choises simply werent there. It wont make much of a difference at all. Maybe just add some bonus feats along the way and make sure those choices are tested and makes sense. But thats not how things work with Owlbear. Quantity over quality.
Trialist Nov 22, 2023 @ 7:02am 
Also can't interact with Pillar(
Starrok  [developer] Nov 22, 2023 @ 7:35am 
The problem is addressed and will be resolved in the upcoming hotfix update.
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Date Posted: Nov 21, 2023 @ 2:14pm
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