Restoration not curing negative level

[Pappus]

Am I not getting something? The text of the spell and the negative level both say I should use Restoration (not lesser) to fix it. I cast it and both time the negative level remains. The diamond dust was used, so what now?

(Edit also I have no mods)

[Immortal Reaver]

Restoration:
"This spell functions like lesser restoration, except that it also dispels temporary negative levels or one permanent negative level."

Do you have more than 1 permanent negative level?

[Pappus]

Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:

Restoration:
"This spell functions like lesser restoration, except that it also dispels temporary negative levels or one permanent negative level."

Do you have more than 1 permanent negative level?

No just one one three different characters. It works on neither of them and also one of them has fatigue and it doesn't remove that either. It basically does nothing except cost diamond dust. So what options do I have now? My last save before I got the debuff is quite long away.

However that said: One of my characters for sure had 3 times the debuff that gives him negative level. The sheet shows only one negative level on them all though so I have no way of verifying. Stat wise only one is missing for them all

[kaymarciy]

I can imagine two possibilities. Something is wrong with Magic Resistance and / or magic immunities (yet again...) and whoever casts Restoration can't surpass it. In this case you'd see some notification in the combat log. Second possibility is something being wrong with touch-delivered spells (yet again...). Do you play in turn-based mode? There used to be a bug claimed to be fixed many times where the character casts a touch-delivered spell, comes to the target and "forgets" to actually deliver it due to some pixel difference in touch range and the actual position. In this case you'd have the "uncasted" spell remaining in your Abilities tab for you to cast it next turn. And of course we can't exclude a situation of something breaking down completely. In that case you'd have an error registered in your out-of-game GameLog. (But looking into the log without WrathPatches mod is masochism.)

[KocLobster]

Originally posted by Pappus:

Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:

Restoration:
"This spell functions like lesser restoration, except that it also dispels temporary negative levels or one permanent negative level."

Do you have more than 1 permanent negative level?

No just one one three different characters. It works on neither of them and also one of them has fatigue and it doesn't remove that either. It basically does nothing except cost diamond dust. So what options do I have now? My last save before I got the debuff is quite long away.

However that said: One of my characters for sure had 3 times the debuff that gives him negative level. The sheet shows only one negative level on them all though so I have no way of verifying. Stat wise only one is missing for them all

You clearly indicate that you're using restoration, not lesser restoration. Definitely sounds like a bug. That should be clearing the negative level and the fatigue.

Did they have ability score drains too? Maybe regular Restoration cleared the ability score drain only and more casts of restoration are needed to also clear the permanent negative levels? I can't remember.


Have you tried reopening the game and reloading your save?

[Pappus]

Thank you guys the problem is solved. I had to restart the game and verify game files. Then it started working correctly straight away.

[Pappus]

Originally posted by kaymarciy:

I can imagine two possibilities. Something is wrong with Magic Resistance and / or magic immunities (yet again...) and whoever casts Restoration can't surpass it. In this case you'd see some notification in the combat log. Second possibilities is something being wrong with touch-delivered spells (yet again...). Do you play in turn-based mode? There used to be a bug claimed to be fixed many times where the character casts a touch-delivered spell, comes to the target and "forgets" to actually deliver it due to some pixel difference in touch range and the actual position. In this case you'd have the "uncasted" spell remaining in your Abilities tab for you to cast it next turn. And of course we can't exclude a situation of something breaking down completely. In that case you'd have an error registered in your out-of-game GameLog. (But looking into the log without WrathPatches mod is masochism.)

In this case the spell was actually casted. The material was paid, the spellslot was used up and the combat log showed absolutely nothing.

The problem disappeared after verifying files so indeed there is a glitch somewhere there, but at least it was working

[kaymarciy]

Originally posted by Pappus:

In this case the spell was actually casted. The material was paid, the spellslot was used up and the combat log showed absolutely nothing.

It may not be very clear to a player, but touch-delivered spells are "casted" in 2 stages. You press the spell icon, use up the resource, perform the casting animation for standart action time... that's the first stage and in fact it's not the spell you want to cast. It's a buff which gives you an ability to hold up (which is stored inside your Abilities tab) which you can cast for real later. If you deliver it in the same turn, it will be a free action. Or a standart action on coming turns. You may actually perform that 1st stage prior to the combat start. And just to make myself clear - the usage of diamond dust does not mean that you have casted the spell, it only means that you have pre-casted it. Whether or not you've used up its effect is a different matter entirely.

PS: if you have a pre-casted touch-delivered spell, you may deliver it with a claw (or other natural) attack too.

[NdNd]

Do you have diamond dusts. The spell requires diamond dusts.

[mbradtke]

btw there are 2 different kinds of attribute damage, i was suprised about this when i found out... i think there is attribute damage and that is easy to cure but there is also attribute drain, what is harder to cure

[Wizard of Woz]

Originally posted by NdNd:

Do you have diamond dusts. The spell requires diamond dusts.

Did you bother to read any of their posts before posting this?

[NdNd]

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

Originally posted by NdNd:

Do you have diamond dusts. The spell requires diamond dusts.

Did you bother to read any of their posts before posting this?

No

[KocLobster]

Originally posted by NdNd:

Originally posted by Wizard of Woz:

Did you bother to read any of their posts before posting this?

No

clearly

[Immortal Reaver]

Originally posted by cookie!:

Originally posted by NdNd:

No

clearly

He did not even read the text under the title.

[KocLobster]

Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:

Originally posted by cookie!:

clearly

He did not even read the text under the title.

I can't point fingers, I have definitely been (unintentionally) guilty of doing this before lol

[NdNd]

Originally posted by cookie!:

Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:

He did not even read the text under the title.

I can't point fingers, I have definitely been (unintentionally) guilty of doing this before lol

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.