how to play as dark paladin ?

[VIII Konrad Curze]

Im new to the game, and wanted to play as someone like chaos warriors from warhammer.
A fallen paladin.
Does the game allow me to do that ? I don`t see any class like that.
Do I just pick normal paladin and pick evil options ? Would that change the abilities ?

[KocLobster]

I'm always the first to admit that I can be wrong.. but I don't believe you have the freedom to do this. Paladins are explicitly restricted to the Lawful Good alignment.

If it any point your alignment changes from lawful good to any other alignment, you will lose access to all of your Paladin spells & class abilities until that alignment is restored. There is no reason to do this and it would severely gimp your character.

Off the top of my head I can't remember any non-traditional Paladin role you might play, like a dark paladin of some kind, in this game.

[Grish]

a Dhampir Lich would be the closest thing ... casts inflict wounds, raise undead etc.

[Ygramul]

Thematically... Hellknight? Though that would only cover the "Dark" part, however they are very much anti-chaos.

[hilburnashua]

There are anti-paladins in Pathfinder. Not WotR though.

Warpriest of an evil god would be a very, very good approximation of a Chaos Champion.

[la_nague]

There isnt really an anti paladin class in the game because you fight evil stuff all the time and not good guys, so it would be 100% useless.

The closest is Hellknight, who can be evil, they are lawful and fight chaos, which works for this game.

[Drake]

Originally posted by la_nague:

There isnt really an anti paladin class in the game because you fight evil stuff all the time and not good guys, so it would be 100% useless.

The closest is Hellknight, who can be evil, they are lawful and fight chaos, which works for this game.

An anti paladin would work easily in the setup, especially when you have the demon path and the swarm path.
Plus we already have the assassin prestige class in the game which is a pure evil class.

There are also evilish archetypes in the game, like cult leader, prophet of pestilence, blight druid, shadowcaster, shadow shaman.

[Soul]

in this game the axis of alignments are good vs evil.... and law vs chaos.... with a neutral in between....

paladins are typically lawful good.... so the COMPLETE opposite of that alignment would be chaotic evil.... which is pretty much the alignment of the demons your fighting....

hellknights are just one step away though.... lawful evil... and you can recruit them early on in Act 2... one as a companion.... they are.... their alignment may be evil but... its not like typical evil.... but more along the lines of them being more devoted to law and order than actual good...

Azata's would be another opposite.... its a mythic path though and not really a base class.... but their alignment is Chaotic Good... they are more about... well its pretty much like "power of friendship".... you draw your power from Elysium.... the realm of dreams... you gain superpowers, and Aivu a dragon companion... but its mainly about "freedom" there are places where you can actually revitalize the land and make it flourish again.... "liberating" it from corruption...

[kaymarciy]

There's a mod adding Antipaladin. "Microscopic Content Expansion" if I'm not mistaken.

[Nah, I'd win.]

A fallen paladin is an Oathbreaker which has a mod
an Evil paladin is a paladin that worships and evil god.

You sound like you want the latter. You could probably build one with a lot of multiclassing

[GunStarX]

I think just role playing from a cavalier would work best to not gimp you. Fearsome leader archetype would probably be the most fitting. You can get abilities from your order that scale with charisma, but you won't have the unholy thing going until you go demon or lich mythic path.

Warpriest and inquisitor both have archetypes that you can get smite good from, but it will basically be useless. You would also give up being a full bab class

[Yannir]

A Dark Paladin and a Chaos Warrior have very different vibes from each other IMO. Both are evil but one is more of a "dark order"-vibe and the other a "chainsaw headbanger"-kinda vibe. Both are viable but smooshing them into one is a tall order.

Hellknight is pretty much WotR's only flavor of the dark knight. It basically packs most of Paladins abilities but is more anti-chaos than Paladins anti-evil. It is a prestige class which means there's prerequisites, and you can only pick it at level 6 at the earliest if you were playing a full-BAB class before.
Then there's also Cavalier which could be good as the dark knight-type. I need to mention here that these 2 classes don't combine well. Hellknight lacks the mount progression that Cavalier needs.

Chaos Warrior is a lot simpler. It's basically just a big armored dude that likes spikey things. Warpriest, Inquisitor or Fighter of chaotic alignment. Warhammer has a lot of the "murderhobo"-type Chaos characters but not all of them are necessarily evil. There's a lot of variance from Aekold Helbrass to Harald Hammerstorm.

[pete3great]

Originally posted by GunStarX:

I think just role playing from a cavalier would work best to not gimp you. Fearsome leader archetype would probably be the most fitting. You can get abilities from your order that scale with charisma, but you won't have the unholy thing going until you go demon or lich mythic path.

Warpriest and inquisitor both have archetypes that you can get smite good from, but it will basically be useless. You would also give up being a full bab class

Yeah, I played a fun-stick build as an evil cavalier and thought the character as an Dark Knight, evil Paladin type.