Please add a visible dice roll

[zombygunner]

its ok you cant get sued for adding dice to your game

[fox5s]

Pretty sure dice get rolled visibly above the enemy's heads when you attack them. It's kind of great.

Honestly, while interesting, the BG3 style of completely interrupting non-combat encounters with the GIANT dice rolling screen is a little jarring and breaks the flow. I still like it. But it absolutely breaks the flow of whatever's going on.

WotR and Kingmaker have their own style and don't need to crowbar in a dice rolling screen just because a popular game that released years AFTER them did it.

[zombygunner]

i agree in bg it is odd honestly i never noticed that for some reason maybe i dont have the settings on for it or i just missed it.

[Pyroblap]

Yeah the rolls are there! In combat, as mentioned, you'll see something like "(15 vs 2)", which means for that attack your character rolled a 15 on the D20, and due to attack bonuses, the enemy AC, status effects, etc, they only needed to roll a 2 to hit.

Saves and skill checks also have rolls; you can see what the dice were doing by hovering your cursor over the relevant dialogue ([Perception passed], etc)/combat log text.

For instance, if you fail to Sleep a monster and wanted to know what the chances were, you can check the combat log where it mentions the target resisting/passing their save, and a little window should pop up showing you a breakdown of your DC, the enemy's dice roll, and the bonuses they applied to it. I'm not sure if this is a difficulty-dependent feature, but it's there!

[THAC0]

Originally posted by fox5s:

Pretty sure dice get rolled visibly above the enemy's heads when you attack them. It's kind of great.

Honestly, while interesting, the BG3 style of completely interrupting non-combat encounters with the GIANT dice rolling screen is a little jarring and breaks the flow. I still like it. But it absolutely breaks the flow of whatever's going on.

WotR and Kingmaker have their own style and don't need to crowbar in a dice rolling screen just because a popular game that released years AFTER them did it.

was about to state i think its kinda in it already ...

[swordfish]

Originally posted by zombygunner:

its ok you cant get sued for adding dice to your game [/quoteIf you have 6 characters all shooting and meleeing, and each got more than one attack per round lol what are you going to see or even notice?
Yes for turned based, it works but for real time not

[zombygunner]

so its not an actual dice roll then? it does not even show the dice it shows numbers? Ok so i was correct there is not one. wish i could unmark question answered and give it to myself

[fox5s]

Originally posted by Eternollon:

Originally posted by fox5s:

Pretty sure dice get rolled visibly above the enemy's heads when you attack them. It's kind of great.

But combats isn't the proper place to have dice rolls by player, and either I have the option off for combats in BG3 either BG3 doesn't use the roll dices mechanic for combats, there's too many rolls in combats, dev can't want slow them down.

I see why you'd say that if you are playing in RTwP. It's better if you are using TBM because you get to click, see the rolls, and have time to actually notice them. Plus you can go check the combat log at your leisure in smaller chuncks than would be there with everyone acting at once.

Originally posted by Eternollon:

Originally posted by fox5s:

Honestly, while interesting, the BG3 style of completely interrupting non-combat encounters with the GIANT dice rolling screen is a little jarring and breaks the flow. I still like it. But it absolutely breaks the flow of whatever's going on.

BG3 doesn't interrupt anything for non-combat encounters:
- For dialog skills check, the encounter is already interrupted by the dialog.
- For disarming trap or open lock, there's no encounters, just a player decision to disarm or not and what character will do it.
- Otherwise it's skills check made in the background.

It's fine for traps and several other things. The place it really interrupts the flow for me is mid conversation. It just feels a bit bad to be talking and then it's time to pull out the dice rolling screen when it's time to lie, persuade or do/know something with a knowledge check. It's also kind of weird how characters sort of pause or act weird while the narrator is interjecting things.

And like I said, it doesn't ruin the game for me. Just breaks the flow I might be in sometimes.

[zombygunner]

for me its just fluff really and nothing that important but i would like a more visible dice roll. I guess Its fine the way it is because honestly i never really noticed. BG3 dice rolls are to much and need to be quicker instead of having its own cut scene lol

[zombygunner]

I dont know if it could be smaller and quicker than bg because theres is to much imo. Maybe in the future they could add one as an option but again smaller and quicker and not in a box or a battle log. And why not make the option to add color to the dice like dice that look like bones or something its just a thought.

[zombygunner]

Maybe this would be the first game like this to make visible die rolls that can be red or some type of color or shape or both it could be cool imo. rolling crits with skull dice sounds sick to me

[smellibear]

God no. The dice roll in BG3 turns from cute to obnoxious within two rolls. I hate it.

[fox5s]

Originally posted by Eternollon:

So I don't understand at all your comment on interruption.

Everything I'm saying about the BG3 dice rolling screen is personally subjective. It breaks the flow i'm in sometimes. I get what they are going for with them but it doesn't always work for me. I'm not objectively right or wrong and you are free to disagree with my take on them.

[Immortal Reaver]

I hate BG3 dice rolling, and hope they add option to skip it.
I mean it was great first few times, then it got gradualy annoying, and now I hate it, since you cannot perfectly skip it.

[Lywelyn]

Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:

I hate BG3 dice rolling, and hope they add option to skip it.
I mean it was great first few times, then it got gradualy annoying, and now I hate it, since you cannot perfectly skip it.

words of wisdom right there

[zombygunner]

this is a great game but it lacks in reviews if that even matters to anyone here probably not and thats fine but most of the people who made this game depend on the reviews and sales and most people play the bigger game of the two by a a ton this game never had a shot but maybe if they took some notes from bg they may of ended up with a stronger fan base and better reviews and sales. i think small things like the visible dice roll wouldnt of been to hard to do and they could of made it less than bg3 and it would of worked imo. I think its the small things that can help a game become a players game instead of we own the game we do we want and the game has no player input. This is the better game but when i look at how many are playing this vs bg3 its not even close and why is that? I think its small quality of life things like the die roll that split these two games BG3 is more player friendly almost like they want you to play there game this one not so much. I like this one because its harder and more in depth that means anyone new is doomed and wont understand the pathfinder way.