Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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Victor66 May 31, 2023 @ 11:34pm
Can't have any grave guards.
Apparently, I was supposed to have used my divination skills in order to predict that I would need to have a certain villain from the first acts in prison. And he's dead, therefore I can't get him, also, according to guides from the net, he is a gateway towards other people that can be turned. Right?
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Gracey Face Jun 1, 2023 @ 12:04am 
Who are you talking about? The only villain that goes in your prison that you then raise is Staunton and him being dead is kind of required. The way it should play out is that you kill him, they ask you what you want to do with his corpse, then you tell them to stick him in the prison so you can use him later.

You don't get the ability to actually raise him until you progress through the lich questline further.

A bit of a spoiler though is that unless you use a mod that lets you respec people from level 1 all of the grave guards except for a random fighter you find in a quest are useless because they have a bunch of wasted levels and useless feats/skills, and even that fighter IIRC has a couple of feats dedicated to a specific fighting style that you might not want. If you intend to use graveguards a mod that lets you respec from 1 is a massive quality of life increase.
Last edited by Gracey Face; Jun 1, 2023 @ 12:06am
fox5s Jun 1, 2023 @ 12:40am 
If you took the Lich dialog option, you will have stored him in the prison for use later. It highly hinted that you would have a use for his body, no divination required. You won't actually be able to raise him until you get... the two buildings for your Mythic quest built.

And, even if you didn't pick that option, there will be other Grave Guards available. Him being missing does not lock you out of the other ones.
Victor66 Jun 1, 2023 @ 2:00am 
I don't remember what I did with him, but I don't think I was on the path to lichdom then.
Thanks for the point about the mod, Gracey!
Is this the dungeon in Drezden or the prison in the first city?
fox5s Jun 1, 2023 @ 2:37am 
You pick your Path right before you climb the citadel to fight that fellow. Specifically, when you hang the Sword of Valor over the keep's Ramparts. You would have had to pick Lich at that point. So you would have had Lich unlocked when they asked you what to do with the body.

I don't think there's an option to switch Paths until Act 5 when Legend, Swarm that Walks, Gold Dragon, and Devil pop up around Mythic Rank 8. If you really want to try a path that requires clairvoyance, read up on how to unlock Swarm that Walks and Devil. Talk about pains in the backside.

But, again don't sweat it. When you build the second Lich building, it will tell you were to look for the other Grave Guard. And there's a third one kicking around that is easy to miss as well. Not that you need them. You don't really lose party members over your choices yet. Seelah only leaves after Mythic Rank 8 or 9 and it's perfectly possible to keep everyone else.

Wait, are you talking to the thing that tells you where your Grave Guards are? The Dungeon/Prison it is referring to is in Drezen. Just walk over and you can pick him up. It's one of the points of interest on the east side of the city map.
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Victor66 Jun 1, 2023 @ 5:47am 
Thank you, fox5s!
But there is no one in prison, except some other person I can't interact with.
Last edited by Victor66; Jun 1, 2023 @ 5:47am
uwfsam2000 Jun 1, 2023 @ 6:14am 
Originally posted by Victor66:
Thank you, fox5s!
But there is no one in prison, except some other person I can't interact with.

If that's the case then your most likely not on the lich path. So go to your character screen, and click on mythic path, the. It will show what path you are on.

I'm at work, so I'm doing this from memory.
Adeptus Stark Jun 1, 2023 @ 6:21am 
Go to the graveyard in your city. If you told Irabeth to bury him as a knight or whatever, he will have a tombstone there you can read.
Victor66 Jun 1, 2023 @ 11:34pm 
I have figured it out. The guy was in prison DEAD and it didn't show when I pressed tab for seeing interactable things and people.
fox5s Jun 2, 2023 @ 12:41am 
Ah! Yeah. They just threw his body into a cell.
Victor66 Jun 2, 2023 @ 3:33am 
Originally posted by fox5s:
Ah! Yeah. They just threw his body into a cell.

Which makes total ”sense”.
steventirey Jun 2, 2023 @ 12:33pm 
Originally posted by Victor66:
Originally posted by fox5s:
Ah! Yeah. They just threw his body into a cell.

Which makes total ”sense”.

Doesn't make much sense, but they only do that because you specifically tell them to do so.

Besides that, in a world where dead bodies can spontaneously come back as a undead creature, keeping a body that you intend to use for something later in a secure location isn't a bad idea. What doesn't make sense is why anyone buries an intact body in the first place in such a world.
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Victor66 Jun 3, 2023 @ 9:07am 
Originally posted by steventirey:
Originally posted by Victor66:

Which makes total ”sense”.

Doesn't make much sense, but they only do that because you specifically tell them to do so.

Besides that, in a world where dead bodies can spontaneously come back as a undead creature, keeping a body that you intend to use for something later in a secure location isn't a bad idea. What doesn't make sense is why anyone buries an intact body in the first place in such a world.

I guess, people who are to poor to pay for a resurrection and people who are too damaged to be resurrected get buried.
Gracey Face Jun 3, 2023 @ 11:17am 
Originally posted by steventirey:
What doesn't make sense is why anyone buries an intact body in the first place in such a world.

Actual burial grounds are supposed to have protections so that bodies can't come back that are awkward and difficult for necromancers to get around. That means things like Sosiel's first companion quest mission are actually impossible in the proper ruleset. For example there's spells like Hallow which turn areas into "holy ground" (it works as you'd expect). The reason why the whole world hasn't been made holy at this point to get rid of undead and demons and such is because it's expensive and time consuming.
Last edited by Gracey Face; Jun 3, 2023 @ 11:21am
Victor66 Jun 3, 2023 @ 12:04pm 
Originally posted by Gracey Face:
Originally posted by steventirey:
What doesn't make sense is why anyone buries an intact body in the first place in such a world.

Actual burial grounds are supposed to have protections so that bodies can't come back that are awkward and difficult for necromancers to get around. That means things like Sosiel's first companion quest mission are actually impossible in the proper ruleset. For example there's spells like Hallow which turn areas into "holy ground" (it works as you'd expect). The reason why the whole world hasn't been made holy at this point to get rid of undead and demons and such is because it's expensive and time consuming.

You do know your lore.
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