Feather Step

[Duder]

Does it work on all adverse terrain - including spells like Grease
Or just difficult terrain

[Gustuv Wynd]

I've tried it on grease...I still fell down. I honestly haven't bother to use it again since. I don't even notice rough terrain.

[pete3great]

Originally posted by Gustuv Wynd:

I've tried it on grease...I still fell down. I honestly haven't bother to use it again since. I don't even notice rough terrain.

It's a bigger deal if you charge a lot, I think.

[fox5s]

Feather Step won't stop you from tripping due to Grease but it will stop Grease from slowing your movement. Those are two separate things.

[Duder]

Is there a spell or ability that prevents slipping from grease or falling into pits

[forkofspite]

Freedom of movement works against grease. Not sure about pits.

[fox5s]

Agreed, Freedom of Movement for Grease. Or anything that makes you Immune to the Prone condition.

Anything that gives you the Wings ability saves you from Pits and it also includes Prone condition Immunity.

[Kornstalx]

Originally posted by fox5s:

Anything that gives you the Wings ability saves you from Pits and it also includes Prone condition Immunity.

What level spell is Red Bull?

[fox5s]

Originally posted by Kornstalx:

What level spell is Red Bull?

Ha! That's a good one! :D

I'm not sure if a spell gives it. I know Angel, Demon, Gold Dragon, and maybe Azata and Devil get it. There's a few classes that get it. Dragon Disciple is the one off the top of my head. Arueshalae gets it.

[pete3great]

Originally posted by Duder:

Is there a spell or ability that prevents slipping from grease or falling into pits

Also, afaik, selective spell does work with grease, which might be a simpler option at low levels than freedome of movement.

[Silyon]

Originally posted by pete3great:

Originally posted by Duder:

Is there a spell or ability that prevents slipping from grease or falling into pits

Also, afaik, selective spell does work with grease, which might be a simpler option at low levels than freedome of movement.

Seeing as Freedom of Movement is a 5th level spell, I'd say Selective Spell's the way to go. It's just as good on later spells that'll end up replacing Grease as well, like Confounding Fog. All casters should pick up that Metamagic at least, even if they don't otherwise build into metamagic. Same reason your Channel Energy members get Selective Channel, it's just that conveniant.

Far as I've seen, enemy casters don't really use many crowd control effects, even at higher levels. Most you run into are things inflicting annoying statuses like Fear, Fatigue/Exhaustion, and Confusion, and even then rarely. I guess blasters are just easier to code AI for.

[Korelis]

In tabletop all you need is the Fly spell. Level 3 spell, lasts 1 min/level, so it's pretty cheap and easy to make ground effects a non-issue. Later you can use Mass Fly to give it to your entire party, for 10 min/level.

Owlcat didn't implement that spell though.

[pete3great]

Originally posted by Silyon:

Originally posted by pete3great:

Also, afaik, selective spell does work with grease, which might be a simpler option at low levels than freedome of movement.

Seeing as Freedom of Movement is a 5th level spell, I'd say Selective Spell's the way to go. It's just as good on later spells that'll end up replacing Grease as well, like Confounding Fog. All casters should pick up that Metamagic at least, even if they don't otherwise build into metamagic. Same reason your Channel Energy members get Selective Channel, it's just that conveniant.

Far as I've seen, enemy casters don't really use many crowd control effects, even at higher levels. Most you run into are things inflicting annoying statuses like Fear, Fatigue/Exhaustion, and Confusion, and even then rarely. I guess blasters are just easier to code AI for.

I've always found it strange how the theorycrafting community for this game ignores selective spell in their builds. For me it's usually the first metamagic feat I take.

[fox5s]

Originally posted by pete3great:

I've always found it strange how the theorycrafting community for this game ignores selective spell in their builds. For me it's usually the first metamagic feat I take.

Probably because it's unnecessary for most spells with proper placement. I also find it personally offensive that the general nerf to spell range compared to PnP makes Selective more useful to begin with.

[Silyon]

Originally posted by fox5s:

Originally posted by pete3great:

I've always found it strange how the theorycrafting community for this game ignores selective spell in their builds. For me it's usually the first metamagic feat I take.

Probably because it's unnecessary for most spells with proper placement. I also find it personally offensive that the general nerf to spell range compared to PnP makes Selective more useful to begin with.

This, basically. Feats are incredibly valuable in min/max builds, and in a lot of ways Selective Spell is a do-nothing feat because everything it offers you can accomplish just as well with strategic positioning. At least in Tabletop, where movement is much more restricted and controlled than in CRPGs like WotR.

Hell, in CRPGs selective spell is so good they created Controlled Fireball as a 4th level spell. It's a spell that doesn't exist in the core ruleset and is just Fireball with the Selective metamagic pre-applied to it. Always found that funny.

[Korelis]

Controlled Fireball is an official spell. https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/c/controlled-fireball/

I don't use Selective metamagic with spells like Grease because it's not allowed in tabletop (instant effects only), and even in WotR the description for Selective says you can't. It feels like abusing a bug.