How fireball works?

[_Solar_]

It says reflex savethrow reduse damage by half, but everytime enemy roll success, it avoid all damage.

[Immortal Reaver]

If enemy has Evasion ability (Rogue class for example has it), on making a save they avoid all damage.
If enemy has improved Evasion they even avoid half damage on failed reflex throw.

[Soul]

either they have improved evasion which makes successful reflex saves do NO damage.... or.... they have high resistance to fire if your using fire element or if they have high spell resistance.... so if your a level 5 for instance casting a fireball thats 5d6 damage... so maximum damage you could do is 30 damage.... if they passed for half it would only be hitting them for 15 damage... if they have high fire resistance it would take more off of it... like fire resistance 10 would turn 15 damage down to 5 damage..... course thats if it was maximized.... if you rolled 20 for fireball and they passed thats -10 damage and the other 10 has to pass fire resistance... which even tieflings have 5 fire resistance and demons have more than that...

[Soul]

with inspection on you can see the enemy and what feats and resistances it has... like fire resistance or if it had evasion..

[Immortal Reaver]

Originally posted by _Solar_:

It says reflex savethrow reduse damage by half, but everytime enemy roll success, it avoid all damage.

Originally posted by Soul:

either they have improved evasion which makes successful reflex saves do NO damage....

Just Evasion works for the case OP described.

[_Solar_]

Can Venomous Giant Spider do that? In its stats, there is not a word about improved avoidance, and avoidance in general

[Soul]

Originally posted by _Solar_:

Can Venomous Giant Spider do that? In its stats, there is not a word about improved avoidance, and avoidance in general

whats its resistances at?

[_Solar_]

whats its resistances at?

No resists, +19 reflex

[Soul]

what did combat log say for damage?... not talking about the side... but actual details of the damage.... to hit and damage...

[Soul]

I think there should be something in combat log to explain it...

[_Solar_]

Originally posted by Soul:

I think there should be something in combat log to explain it...

it just log with enemy throw and another log with "spider evades the effect of fireball"

[Soul]

evasion...
"A character can avoid even magical and unusual attacks with great agility. If a character makes a successful Reflex saving throw against an attack that normally deals half damage on a successful save, he instead takes no damage. A helpless character does not gain the benefit of evasion."

[_Solar_]

Originally posted by Soul:

evasion...
"A character can avoid even magical and unusual attacks with great agility. If a character makes a successful Reflex saving throw against an attack that normally deals half damage on a successful save, he instead takes no damage. A helpless character does not gain the benefit of evasion."

And how can I find out that the enemy has evasion if it is not written in its card? But thanks, now i know why it avoid damage

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

Spell Resistance...

I'm betting your spell is getting resisted by there SR rating which acts like AC for spells. Most demons have Spell Resistance, and you need to do a roll or your spell fizzles. I'm betting that's what happened.

[_Solar_]

Originally posted by AzureTheGamerKobold:

Spell Resistance...

I'm betting your spell is getting resisted by there SR rating which acts like AC for spells. Most demons have Spell Resistance, and you need to do a roll or your spell fizzles. I'm betting that's what happened.

No, when spell resisted by SR it says it, but in this case it says "spider evades effect"

[Immortal Reaver]

That sounds exactly like enemy has Evasion ability.

Post screenshots of info on enemy you get by inspecting. That would be quickest way to resolve this with certainty.