Vrock in market squere only 90 exp?

[Lilltiger]

I just defeted the Vrock in the market square with a 5 heroes lvl 3 party in Core difficulty, It was not easy at all. On my 4th try I finaly got him killed, but I only got 90 exp for it.. That felt vbery underwhelming for the resources I spent for it.. Is he supposed to give so little exp?

[Soul]

think that sounds about right.... I mean its just an enemy not like some boss....

[Soul]

think with full party its 70 xp..... also it seems a tough fight... but really at level 3 it is.... but at level 5 you can pretty much get him down quickly...

[Lilltiger]

Ok, just feelt so wrong when it's supposed to be a CR9 monster worth 6,400 XP and just reduced to 90 XP.. like killing a few gouls..

[Soul]

Originally posted by Lilltiger:

Ok, just feelt so wrong when it's supposed to be a CR9 monster worth 6,400 XP and just reduced to 90 XP.. like killing a few gouls..

yeah... im not sure how the xp is calculated in this game for enemies.... but I think when you inspect the enemies you can see if you scroll down how much experience they will give upon defeat...

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

CR 9 with 6+ people should be 1070 exp per character as per Raw... as the Vrock is a CR 9 monster.

Course if they gave you the EXP you were meant to get you'd be level 20 by the end of act 2... because of there insane need to throw ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at you. Honestly i wish they just took EXP away and gave level ups at certain intervals. Its kind of what they do anyway but least the whole EXP debate would be less apparent.

Edit: i think what bugs me the most is these encounters reward you with jack all.

[Kaze]

The reward for that fight is the +2 mithril shield on the nearby corpse (for seelah). Unless you're playing on Last Azlanti I'd just Slumber (ember) + Coup de Grace (whoever has the highest DC for it) until the Vrock explodes. Reload if it makes the will or fort save. Easy fight.

[thunda]

Originally posted by Kaze:

The reward for that fight is the +2 mithril shield on the nearby corpse (for seelah). Unless you're playing on Last Azlanti I'd just Slumber (ember) + Coup de Grace (whoever has the highest DC for it) until the Vrock explodes. Reload if it makes the will or fort save. Easy fight.

Save scumming makes every fight easy. The price is your sanity (if you had any to begin with) considering the load times in this game.

[AzureTheGamerKobold]

Originally posted by Kaze:

The reward for that fight is the +2 mithril shield on the nearby corpse (for seelah). Unless you're playing on Last Azlanti I'd just Slumber (ember) + Coup de Grace (whoever has the highest DC for it) until the Vrock explodes. Reload if it makes the will or fort save. Easy fight.

But the Vrock doesn't drop that shield in fact if you do things in the wrong order that shield will never drop at all. The shield drops off the soldier who dies fighting the vrock when he spawns. So the Vrock himself has no treasure, no reward and is worth no real exp... alot of fights in both this and kingmaker have that issue. I remember killing the shambling mound in chapter 1 of kingmaker and getting like 15 exp... and no loot at all.

Basically i don't mind having tough side enemies but at least make them worth while. You're free to argue the shield is the vrocks treasure but i just whole heartedly disagree since if you can miss out on it if you mess up the order of things despite summoning the vrock.

[Soul]

Originally posted by AzureTheGamerKobold:

Originally posted by Kaze:

The reward for that fight is the +2 mithril shield on the nearby corpse (for seelah). Unless you're playing on Last Azlanti I'd just Slumber (ember) + Coup de Grace (whoever has the highest DC for it) until the Vrock explodes. Reload if it makes the will or fort save. Easy fight.

But the Vrock doesn't drop that shield in fact if you do things in the wrong order that shield will never drop at all. The shield drops off the soldier who dies fighting the vrock when he spawns. So the Vrock himself has no treasure, no reward and is worth no real exp... alot of fights in both this and kingmaker have that issue. I remember killing the shambling mound in chapter 1 of kingmaker and getting like 15 exp... and no loot at all.

Basically i don't mind having tough side enemies but at least make them worth while. You're free to argue the shield is the vrocks treasure but i just whole heartedly disagree since if you can miss out on it if you mess up the order of things despite summoning the vrock.

the real reward is my OCD is satisfied cause I managed to clear the area.... knowing one enemy still stands is not satisfactory.... lol

[RedwoodElf]

Maybe you only get 90 XP because you're the one who summoned the thing in the first place?

"Ember, you did WHAT? Guess we should clean this up..."

[GunStarX]

I've probably killed that vrock 25 different times and never once got a +2 shield lmao

[Soul]

Originally posted by GunStarX:

I've probably killed that vrock 25 different times and never once got a +2 shield lmao

its from the knights that the Vrock ends up killing that were standing nearby there...

[Icedfate]

tabletop monsters xp values is balanced around the idea that the players are only going to fight 1-2 encounters per session and the encounters are only going to be a handful of enemies.
on a crpg, it can send dozens and dozens and hundreds of enemies at you in the course of a single session, because the computer can handle the dice rolls and all the maths etc. . so it's likely that they reduced xp per enemy for that reason.

[Chan]

Originally posted by GunStarX:

I've probably killed that vrock 25 different times and never once got a +2 shield lmao

Before you summon the vrock go to it's spawn location and fight the dretch that are there and the shield will be there when you summon the vrock. How I do it usually.

[Fingusa of the East]

Yeah get used to the game completely ignoring RAW every time it would help the player in any way, shape or form. Really do not recommend opening any beastiary or rulebook when playing WotR, it will give you a headache, especially enemy stats.