Turn off the Crusade?

[Ruka]

I finally got out of Kenabres and have armies to control. Absolutely not loving it. xD I just wanna play pathfinder and somehow even lvl 1 demon armies I've been wiped by so I'd rather just not worry about and focus on playing the game.

My question is if you turn off the crusade (as it says it'll open up fort blocked places in time) but you also lose out on sidequests? Are there any huge quests that make keeping the Crusades turned on worth it?

[Cutlass Jack]

The Crusade really isn't that bad. Just toss a little money at Irabeth and she'll get you forces good enough to handle most of the early stuff. And you can turn down the crusade difficulty seperate from the normal difficulty if you need to.

As far as I'm aware, turning off the crusade won't have any major penalties other than missing out on rewards for fighting those battles, and having to wait for things to open up. It shouldn't make you lose on any sidequest I can think of.

[Schlumpsha]

There are crusade specific quests you'll miss out on. Although those differ vastly from normal quests. To put bluntly, there are no story involved in them. And are generally limited to a rinse and repeat of "reach rank A of crusade stat B", or "defeat army X in fort Y with your crusade army". Afterwards you merely get a briefing.

While not being a "quest" itself, the secret ending requires doing crusade quests. Meaning turning it off will make it impossible to get that special ending. If you don't enjoy doing it and don't plan to aim for said ending, turning it off is honestly more advisable.

[Crusader993]

You won't get some interesting items (so-called relics), you won't be able to influence the decisions of the military council (and other councils), you might not get to know the background to some NPCs in full length and you will have significantly less variety in the gameplay. You will also not be able to teleport around the world map with your group.

The strategic component of the game is actually what makes immersion (that you are in a war and as a commander actually have a significant influence on this war) possible in the first place.

Personally, I would never want to play WotR without the crusade mode, nor would I recommend it to anyone.

[Soul]

you can actually change crusade mode in options menu to story mode... and even adjust settings like increased resources and such... it wont affect difficulty or achievements except for like 2 hardcore ones if your going for them... but otherwise you'd miss out on stuff if you dont do the crusade like the secret ending...

[Gracey Face]

There's a couple of mods that make it so the crusade has no time limits, you always win battles and always succeed in projects. I think Toybox is one of them. If you don't like the crusade (and lets be honest, no one does, even those who feel a need to pretend that they do out of some odd "loyalty" to the game) this allows you to skip all of the time you'd normally waste on the crusade management minigame while also allowing you to get all of the story and rewards from it.

Though even skipping it all this way it is still a bit of a chore.

[Crusader993]

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

If you don't like the crusade (and lets be honest, no one does, even those who feel a need to pretend that they do out of some odd "loyalty" to the game...

Don't talk nonsense.

You can voice your own opinion, but don't speak for other people here...

[Soul]

Originally posted by Crusader993:

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

If you don't like the crusade (and lets be honest, no one does, even those who feel a need to pretend that they do out of some odd "loyalty" to the game...

Don't talk nonsense.

You can voice your own opinion, but don't speak for other people here...

amen

[Schlumpsha]

Originally posted by Crusader993:

Personally, I would never want to play WotR without the crusade mode, nor would I recommend it to anyone.

You're free to do so. Just like others are free to recommend the opposite of your opinion.

A video game is meant as entertainment for having fun. If an optional part turns out to be detremential to a person's personal enjoyment (thus harming the overall playing experience of the game), I'd personally recommend them to just turn it off for their playthrough.

[🐺Blue Wolf]

Look up Combat Relief mod. You keep the 'benefits' of having it on while not worrying about it.

[Dragon Master]

You'll definitely want crusade mode on if you want good items, the secret ending and if you are playing a liche, which requires you being able to construct a ziggurat.

[Mr Fred]

REALLY wondering how does one lose to lvl 1 demon army unless its on purpose. Were talking about a LOT of skipping turns and doing nothing...

[Schlumpsha]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

You'll definitely want crusade mode on if ... you are playing a liche, which requires you being able to construct a ziggurat.

The game will do this for you automatically. Just like the needed research decree for Swarm that Walks. Turning crusade off has no impact on mythic path progression, or requirements.

You merely lose out on their relevant mythic units for army battles since... well... there are no more army battles without crusade mode. Unsurprisingly.

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Schlumpsha:

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

You'll definitely want crusade mode on if ... you are playing a liche, which requires you being able to construct a ziggurat.

The game will do this for you automatically. Just like the needed research decree for Swarm that Walks. Turning crusade off has no impact on mythic path progression, or requirements.

You merely lose out on their relevant mythic units for army battles since... well... there are no more army battles without crusade mode. Unsurprisingly.

Oh, the bugs limiting mythic paths have been patched out?

[Schlumpsha]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Oh, the bugs limiting mythic paths have been patched out?

Needing to fulfill prerequisites to unlock mythic paths is intended. Swarm wannabes still need to pick up that one book for instance.

It's just that decree requirements are not player initiated anymore if you turn the crusade off. Hence why after a couple of ingame days the game constructs the ziggurat on its own. That has been around since closet beta of the pre-release.

[Lywelyn]

Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:

The Crusade really isn't that bad. Just toss a little money at Irabeth and she'll get you forces good enough to handle most of the early stuff. And you can turn down the crusade difficulty seperate from the normal difficulty if you need to.

As far as I'm aware, turning off the crusade won't have any major penalties other than missing out on rewards for fighting those battles, and having to wait for things to open up. It shouldn't make you lose on any sidequest I can think of.

wrong

it lock you out of the ascension ending.

aside from that then yeah nothing worth, a few bunch of crusade related quest and basically all the research linked to it ( including the ascension ending )