Dretch Casting Stinking Cloud

[Quincey Xarann]

Dretch's are now casting stinking cloud on Core mode difficulty whereas prior to the update they weren't able to. Bug?

[Soul]

actually they cast it on daring too.... but not on normal mode...

[Storm]

Playing at hard mode at the moment, and it's same there. You can can be ensure that it's their first move.

[forkofspite]

They've always been able to cast stinking cloud on Core difficulty. From the number of threads asking about this, maybe that happens more frequently now, but I didn't notice any differences.

[GunStarX]

Originally posted by forkofspite:

They've always been able to cast stinking cloud on Core difficulty. From the number of threads asking about this, maybe that happens more frequently now, but I didn't notice any differences.

It used to be only a few of the dretch encounters involved stinking cloud in act 1, I think it wasn't until the gray garrison actually. It is now every single dretch's first action starting from the shield maze.

[mbradtke]

better AI maybe? i wonder if wenduag is still immune against tough lol, for whatever reason... maybe because she is half spider lol

[fox5s]

I've run into situations where they cast it before. However, during this run, they are actually opening combat with it EVERY time! O.o

I don't actually mind this and wondered why they weren't before. However, I'll be much happier about it when I make it to third level spells and have access to Mass Delay Poison.

[Crusader993]

Originally posted by fox5s:

I don't actually mind this and wondered why they weren't before. However, I'll be much happier about it when I make it to third level spells and have access to Mass Delay Poison.

That they didn't do it that often before was a bug. This bug was fixed with a recent update.

So the dretches now work the way they should have always worked. So everything is fine.

The dretches can't do anything else. They are weak and therefore completely harmless. So it makes perfect sense that they're at least something good at using their stink bombs. Also, after a few levels, you can get 100% protection against it, so what's the problem?!

[fox5s]

Originally posted by Crusader993:

So the dretches now work the way they should have always worked. So everything is fine.

Totally agree. That's what I personally had figured.

Originally posted by Crusader993:

The dretches can't do anything else. They are weak and therefore completely harmless. So it makes perfect sense that they're at least something good at using their stink bombs. Also, after a few levels, you can get 100% protection against it, so what's the problem?!

They can still be a bit dangerous with their multiple attacks if they happen to lock onto someone with a terrible AC. However, with care, this is a non-issue. It's nice that they can still be an annoyance. I even called out the exact spell that protects you against it. :D

[Storm]

Somehow the dretch has a habit of rolling high Dice on attaks, which I find suspicious... anyhow ... the danger with Dretch is combination with other demons if you aren't protected against the gas.

[Dave]

Yes and no.

They are supposed to cast it on every decent difficulty (i guess on normal or lower that would be considered "too hard"), and they actually did cast it some time ago.

Then some patches ago they got bugged and stopped casting it, effectively becoming the most useless demons in wotr.

Now with 2.1 they FIXED that bug and Dretch are behaving again like they were supposed to.

[leonfire99]

Originally posted by Crusader993:

Originally posted by fox5s:

I don't actually mind this and wondered why they weren't before. However, I'll be much happier about it when I make it to third level spells and have access to Mass Delay Poison.

That they didn't do it that often before was a bug. This bug was fixed with a recent update.

So the dretches now work the way they should have always worked. So everything is fine.

The dretches can't do anything else. They are weak and therefore completely harmless. So it makes perfect sense that they're at least something good at using their stink bombs. Also, after a few levels, you can get 100% protection against it, so what's the problem?!

My problem with it was the defending the tavern mission in act 1 where they spawn and stinking cloud at the same time so i have no time to act or respond at all.

[MrQuincy]

Originally posted by leonfire99:

Originally posted by Crusader993:

That they didn't do it that often before was a bug. This bug was fixed with a recent update.

So the dretches now work the way they should have always worked. So everything is fine.

The dretches can't do anything else. They are weak and therefore completely harmless. So it makes perfect sense that they're at least something good at using their stink bombs. Also, after a few levels, you can get 100% protection against it, so what's the problem?!

My problem with it was the defending the tavern mission in act 1 where they spawn and stinking cloud at the same time so i have no time to act or respond at all.

Remember you'll want to use the scroll merchants.

Buy a scroll of delay poison communal. It makes you immune to the clouds and lasts for a full hour.

[ChompyRiley]

I've never NOT had the dretch use giant fart as their first move.

[Janthis]

It's especially fun in crusade mode when they cast it and disable your whole army.

[Gold Dragon]

Having played Heroes of Might & Magic before, I've avoided my entire army being halted. But they still attack the Ranged units with the Big Stink before going for Melee.